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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Deoxys (Attack)'s top six counters needs 0.23 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.26 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 0:40. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Deoxys (Attack) · Tier 3
psychic
Weak to
bugghostdark
Boss CP
20,103
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Deoxys (Attack) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.42)1(0.38)1(0.41)1:073.5
Level 251(0.30)1(0.31)1(0.35)0:542.8
Level 301(0.24)1(0.26)1(0.31)0:462.0
Level 351(0.22)1(0.24)1(0.28)0:431.6
Level 401(0.20)1(0.23)1(0.26)0:401.3
Level 451(0.17)1(0.22)1(0.26)0:381.1
Level 501(0.15)1(0.21)1(0.25)0:370.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.20

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.20
  • Darkrai0.21
  • Kyurem (Black)0.23
  • Tyranitar0.24
  • Hydreigon0.23
  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)0.24

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Incineroar0.25
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.26
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)0.25
  • Giratina (Origin)0.25
  • Volcarona0.26
  • Vikavolt0.27

The party these numbers assume

1. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Shadow Claw + Moongeist Beam
2. Darkrai
Snarl + Foul Play
3. Kyurem (Black)
Shadow Claw + Freeze Shock
4. Tyranitar
Bite + Brutal Swing
5. Hydreigon
Bite + Brutal Swing
6. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)
Shadow Claw + Sunsteel Strike

See the full ranked counter list for Deoxys (Attack) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.