Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Cyclizar's top six counters needs 0.44 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.55 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:17. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.

Cyclizar · Tier 3

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Weak to

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Boss CP: 16,539
Boss HP: 3,600
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Cyclizar at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	1(0.50)	1(0.62)	1(0.80)	1:49	4.6
Level 25	1(0.46)	1(0.54)	1(0.69)	1:35	3.4
Level 30	1(0.40)	1(0.48)	1(0.60)	1:24	2.4
Level 35	1(0.38)	1(0.46)	1(0.58)	1:20	2.0
Level 40	1(0.37)	1(0.44)	1(0.55)	1:17	1.8
Level 45	1(0.36)	1(0.43)	1(0.54)	1:15	1.6
Level 50	1(0.37)	1(0.42)	1(0.52)	1:13	1.4

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Eternatus0.37

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Eternatus0.37
Kyurem (Black)0.39
Keldeo0.44
Kyurem (White)0.45
Lucario0.49
Palkia (Origin)0.49

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

Regidrago0.53
Blaziken0.53
Garchomp0.53
Kartana0.54
Latios0.54
Salamence0.55

The party these numbers assume

1. Eternatus

Dragon Tail + Dynamax Cannon

2. Kyurem (Black)

Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock

3. Keldeo

Low Kick + Secret Sword

4. Kyurem (White)

Dragon Breath + Ice Burn

5. Lucario

Force Palm + Aura Sphere

6. Palkia (Origin)

Dragon Tail + Spacial Rend

See the full ranked counter list for Cyclizar · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.