Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 12,340
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.49) | 2(1.83) | 3(2.52) | 8:25 | 4.5 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.30) | 2(1.61) | 3(2.21) | 7:23 | 3.6 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.19) | 2(1.46) | 3(2.01) | 6:42 | 3.0 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.14) | 2(1.40) | 2(1.93) | 6:28 | 2.7 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.09) | 2(1.35) | 2(1.83) | 6:12 | 2.5 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.05) | 2(1.30) | 2(1.78) | 6:00 | 2.4 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.02) | 2(1.26) | 2(1.74) | 5:49 | 2.2 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.09
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.09
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.12
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)1.14
- Eternatus1.51
- Metagross1.57
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.65
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Dialga (Origin)1.75
- Genesect1.79
- Genesect (Burn)1.79
- Genesect (Chill)1.79
- Genesect (Douse)1.79
- Genesect (Shock)1.79
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Cleffa · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.