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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Chien-Pao's top six counters needs 1.92 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.55 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 8:49. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 40.
Chien-Pao · Elite
darkice
Weak to
fightingrockbugsteelfirefairy
Boss CP
52,657
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Chien-Pao at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.27)3(2.92)5(4.35)13:256.0
Level 252(1.95)3(2.49)4(3.50)11:276.0
Level 302(1.76)3(2.15)3(2.92)9:536.0
Level 352(1.69)3(2.04)3(2.72)9:246.0
Level 402(1.56)2(1.92)3(2.55)8:496.0
Level 452(1.51)2(1.82)3(2.45)8:236.0
Level 502(1.48)2(1.76)3(2.36)8:076.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Keldeo1.56

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Keldeo1.56
  • Lucario1.86
  • Terrakion1.86
  • Blaziken1.90
  • Urshifu (Rapid Strike)2.12
  • Urshifu (Single Strike)2.20

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)2.38
  • Marshadow2.42
  • Mewtwo2.43
  • Machamp2.48
  • Buzzwole2.47
  • Raikou2.51

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo
Low Kick + Secret Sword
2. Lucario
Force Palm + Aura Sphere
3. Terrakion
Double Kick + Sacred Sword
4. Blaziken
Counter + Aura Sphere
5. Urshifu (Rapid Strike)
Counter + Dynamic Punch
6. Urshifu (Single Strike)
Counter + Dynamic Punch

See the full ranked counter list for Chien-Pao · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.