Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Charizard's top six counters needs 1.37 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.79 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 6:19. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 20.

Charizard · Tier 5

fireflying

Weak to

rockwaterelectric

Boss CP: 39,966
Boss HP: 15,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Charizard at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	3(2.03)	2(1.99)	3(2.72)	9:09	6.0
Level 25	2(1.59)	2(1.69)	3(2.30)	7:46	6.0
Level 30	2(1.42)	2(1.50)	2(1.99)	6:55	6.0
Level 35	2(1.36)	2(1.42)	2(1.88)	6:33	6.0
Level 40	2(1.31)	2(1.37)	2(1.79)	6:19	6.0
Level 45	2(1.27)	2(1.32)	2(1.72)	6:05	5.9
Level 50	2(1.19)	2(1.27)	2(1.66)	5:50	5.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Rampardos1.31

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

Rampardos1.31
Glimmora1.32
Rhyperior1.35
Tyrantrum1.39
Terrakion1.42
Gigalith1.43

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

Aggron1.70
Landorus (Incarnate)1.72
Alolan Golem1.72
Omastar1.74
Golem1.74
Lycanroc (Midnight)1.77

The party these numbers assume

1. Rampardos

Smack Down + Rock Slide

2. Glimmora

Rock Throw + Meteor Beam

3. Rhyperior

Smack Down + Rock Wrecker

4. Tyrantrum

Rock Throw + Meteor Beam

5. Terrakion

Smack Down + Rock Slide

6. Gigalith

Lock-On + Meteor Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Charizard · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.