Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 81,670
- Boss HP
- 22,500
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 7(6.19) | 7(6.28) | 8(7.40) | 29:11 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 5(4.78) | 6(5.04) | 6(5.94) | 23:26 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 5(4.44) | 5(4.51) | 6(5.05) | 20:58 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 5(4.02) | 5(4.26) | 5(4.74) | 19:48 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.95) | 5(4.05) | 5(4.50) | 18:49 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.85) | 4(3.92) | 5(4.30) | 18:14 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 4(3.78) | 4(3.78) | 5(4.10) | 17:35 | 5.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Hydreigon3.95
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
5 trainers at level 40
- Hydreigon3.95
- Eternatus3.94
- Tyranitar4.03
- Glimmora4.10
- Kyogre4.18
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)4.09
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)4.39
- Garchomp4.40
- Tyrantrum4.46
- Hisuian Samurott4.40
- Incineroar4.47
- Salamence4.48
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Mega Chandelure · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.