Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 4 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 51,305
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 6(5.59) | 6(5.45) | 6(5.90) | 25:04 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 5(4.98) | 5(4.62) | 5(4.96) | 21:14 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.90) | 4(4.00) | 5(4.46) | 18:23 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.70) | 4(3.80) | 5(4.21) | 17:28 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.45) | 4(3.57) | 4(4.00) | 16:26 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.42) | 4(3.50) | 4(3.88) | 16:07 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 4(3.34) | 4(3.40) | 4(3.70) | 15:38 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)3.45
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)3.45
- Inteleon3.52
- Hydreigon3.59
- Tyranitar3.60
- Darkrai3.61
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.66
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
4 trainers at level 40
- Quaquaval3.87
- Greninja3.90
- Primarina3.93
- Giratina (Origin)3.95
- Garchomp3.93
- Lunala4.05
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Ceruledge · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.