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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Celesteela's top six counters needs 3.49 trainers (round up: 4), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 4.25 (round up: 5). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 16:03. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Celesteela · Elite
steelflying
Weak to
fireelectric
Boss CP
45,927
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Celesteela at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 206(5.93)6(5.72)7(6.66)26:206.0
Level 255(4.93)5(4.57)6(5.39)21:006.0
Level 305(4.27)4(3.96)5(4.73)18:136.0
Level 354(3.78)4(3.67)5(4.47)16:526.0
Level 404(3.42)4(3.49)5(4.25)16:036.0
Level 454(3.14)4(3.32)5(4.06)15:156.0
Level 503(2.99)4(3.16)4(3.90)14:316.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Blacephalon3.42

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Blacephalon3.42
  • Thundurus (Therian)3.47
  • Regieleki3.44
  • Reshiram3.47
  • Zeraora3.56
  • Xurkitree3.56

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

5 trainers at level 40

  • Darmanitan (Standard)4.13
  • Chandelure4.19
  • Blaziken4.17
  • Volcarona4.19
  • Delphox4.23
  • Moltres4.25

The party these numbers assume

1. Blacephalon
Incinerate + Mind Blown
2. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
3. Regieleki
Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage
4. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare
5. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
6. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge

See the full ranked counter list for Celesteela · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.