Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 39,774
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.41) | 4(3.17) | 4(3.67) | 14:35 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.77) | 3(2.56) | 4(3.06) | 11:47 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.13) | 3(2.25) | 3(2.76) | 10:20 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 2(2.00) | 3(2.12) | 3(2.62) | 9:44 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.90) | 3(2.02) | 3(2.49) | 9:17 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.81) | 2(1.95) | 3(2.40) | 8:58 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.75) | 2(1.87) | 3(2.30) | 8:36 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon1.90
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon1.90
- Thundurus (Therian)2.01
- Regieleki2.02
- Reshiram2.04
- Zeraora2.05
- Xurkitree2.07
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Raikou2.43
- Ho-Oh2.43
- Chandelure2.46
- Blaziken2.44
- Delphox2.45
- Electivire2.46
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Celesteela · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.