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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 16h 58m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Castform (Sunny)'s top six counters needs 1.65 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.87 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 7:35. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 30.
Castform (Sunny) · Tier 5
fire
Weak to
groundrockwater
Boss CP
23,405
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Castform (Sunny) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.24)3(2.37)3(2.91)10:556.0
Level 252(1.95)3(2.06)3(2.42)9:305.8
Level 302(1.70)2(1.87)3(2.06)8:365.7
Level 352(1.58)2(1.76)2(1.95)8:075.5
Level 402(1.54)2(1.65)2(1.87)7:355.4
Level 452(1.49)2(1.59)2(1.81)7:205.4
Level 502(1.40)2(1.51)2(1.76)6:585.3

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Landorus (Therian)1.54

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Landorus (Therian)1.54
  • Inteleon1.65
  • Glimmora1.65
  • Kyogre1.67
  • Eternatus1.68
  • Groudon1.70

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Rhyperior1.80
  • Gigalith1.82
  • Garchomp1.84
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.84
  • Terrakion1.86
  • Landorus (Incarnate)1.86

The party these numbers assume

1. Landorus (Therian)
Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm
2. Inteleon
Water Gun + Hydro Cannon
3. Glimmora
Rock Throw + Meteor Beam
4. Kyogre
Waterfall + Origin Pulse
5. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Dynamax Cannon
6. Groudon
Mud Shot + Precipice Blades

See the full ranked counter list for Castform (Sunny) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.