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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 22h 6m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Camerupt's top six counters needs 2.03 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.52 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 9:37. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 45.
Camerupt · Shadow Tier 5
fireground
Weak to
waterground
Boss CP
31,454
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Camerupt at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.79)4(3.24)5(4.04)15:186.0
Level 253(2.43)3(2.62)4(3.31)12:226.0
Level 303(2.12)3(2.27)3(2.85)10:436.0
Level 352(1.92)3(2.14)3(2.66)10:076.0
Level 402(1.88)3(2.03)3(2.52)9:376.0
Level 452(1.81)2(1.94)3(2.45)9:106.0
Level 502(1.71)2(1.85)3(2.33)8:456.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyogre1.88

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kyogre1.88
  • Inteleon2.00
  • Quaquaval1.99
  • Primarina2.08
  • Kingler2.12
  • Greninja2.13

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Volcanion2.39
  • Clawitzer2.31
  • Hisuian Samurott2.37
  • Crawdaunt2.45
  • Tatsugiri2.45
  • Palkia (Origin)2.58

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyogre
Waterfall + Origin Pulse
2. Inteleon
Water Gun + Hydro Cannon
3. Quaquaval
Water Gun + Hydro Cannon
4. Primarina
Waterfall + Hydro Cannon
5. Kingler
Bubble + Crabhammer
6. Greninja
Water Shuriken + Hydro Cannon

See the full ranked counter list for Camerupt · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.