Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 69,308
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.63) | 4(3.62) | 5(4.52) | 16:39 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.87) | 4(3.15) | 4(3.71) | 14:28 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.50) | 3(2.70) | 4(3.26) | 12:26 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.43) | 3(2.57) | 4(3.08) | 11:48 | 5.9 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.32) | 3(2.44) | 3(2.93) | 11:15 | 5.9 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.21) | 3(2.37) | 3(2.79) | 10:54 | 5.9 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.16) | 3(2.26) | 3(2.68) | 10:24 | 5.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Darkrai2.32
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Darkrai2.32
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.33
- Hydreigon2.40
- Tyranitar2.41
- Kingambit2.55
- Giratina (Origin)2.65
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Lunala2.81
- Zarude2.81
- Absol2.84
- Grimmsnarl2.84
- Houndoom2.89
- Urshifu (Single Strike)2.95
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Calyrex (Shadow Rider) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.