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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 23h 46m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Bounsweet's top six counters needs 0.72 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.88 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 3:18. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Bounsweet · Tier 5
grass
Weak to
flyingpoisonbugfireice
Boss CP
7,857
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Bounsweet at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.89)1(0.97)2(1.19)4:293.9
Level 251(0.77)1(0.86)2(1.05)3:572.8
Level 301(0.70)1(0.78)1(0.95)3:362.0
Level 351(0.67)1(0.75)1(0.91)3:271.8
Level 401(0.63)1(0.72)1(0.88)3:181.5
Level 451(0.62)1(0.70)1(0.85)3:131.3
Level 501(0.60)1(0.68)1(0.83)3:071.2

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Blacephalon0.63

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Blacephalon0.63
  • Kyurem (White)0.69
  • Rayquaza0.71
  • Eternatus0.74
  • Kyurem (Black)0.76
  • Reshiram0.77

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Chandelure0.85
  • Volcarona0.86
  • Cinderace0.86
  • Darmanitan (Standard)0.87
  • Naganadel0.87
  • Staraptor0.88

The party these numbers assume

1. Blacephalon
Incinerate + Mind Blown
2. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
3. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
4. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Dynamax Cannon
5. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
6. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare

See the full ranked counter list for Bounsweet · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.