Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 7,811
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.39) | 2(1.67) | 2(1.95) | 7:40 | 3.2 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.23) | 2(1.47) | 2(1.73) | 6:45 | 2.4 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.12) | 2(1.34) | 2(1.57) | 6:10 | 2.1 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.07) | 2(1.28) | 2(1.51) | 5:54 | 1.9 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.02) | 2(1.24) | 2(1.45) | 5:41 | 1.6 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.99) | 2(1.20) | 2(1.41) | 5:31 | 1.5 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.97) | 2(1.16) | 2(1.36) | 5:21 | 1.4 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon1.02
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon1.02
- Rayquaza1.15
- Reshiram1.24
- Salamence1.31
- Moltres1.34
- Enamorus (Incarnate)1.35
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Blaziken1.41
- Rampardos1.42
- Staraptor1.42
- Tornadus (Therian)1.43
- Glimmora1.43
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.43
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Blipbug · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.