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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Bibarel's top six counters needs 0.42 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.51 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:14. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Bibarel · Tier 3
normalwater
Weak to
fightinggrasselectric
Boss CP
12,293
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Bibarel at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.52)1(0.61)1(0.73)1:474.6
Level 251(0.45)1(0.53)1(0.63)1:333.5
Level 301(0.43)1(0.47)1(0.56)1:232.6
Level 351(0.40)1(0.44)1(0.53)1:182.3
Level 401(0.39)1(0.42)1(0.51)1:141.9
Level 451(0.37)1(0.41)1(0.50)1:121.8
Level 501(0.37)1(0.40)1(0.48)1:101.7

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Keldeo0.39

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Keldeo0.39
  • Regieleki0.42
  • Kartana0.43
  • Lucario0.43
  • Zeraora0.43
  • Thundurus (Therian)0.43

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Conkeldurr0.50
  • Urshifu (Rapid Strike)0.50
  • Urshifu (Single Strike)0.51
  • Raikou0.51
  • Breloom0.51
  • Rillaboom0.51

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo
Low Kick + Secret Sword
2. Regieleki
Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage
3. Kartana
Razor Leaf + Sacred Sword
4. Lucario
Force Palm + Aura Sphere
5. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
6. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm

See the full ranked counter list for Bibarel · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.