Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 24,022
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.82) | 3(2.15) | 3(2.72) | 9:54 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.58) | 2(1.85) | 3(2.34) | 8:30 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.44) | 2(1.67) | 3(2.10) | 7:42 | 5.7 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.40) | 2(1.60) | 3(2.01) | 7:21 | 5.5 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.35) | 2(1.53) | 2(1.92) | 7:04 | 5.3 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.28) | 2(1.49) | 2(1.86) | 6:50 | 5.1 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.24) | 2(1.43) | 2(1.79) | 6:34 | 5.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Keldeo1.35
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Keldeo1.35
- Lucario1.47
- Terrakion1.55
- Landorus (Therian)1.56
- Blaziken1.58
- Groudon1.70
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Breloom1.84
- Marshadow1.86
- Gallade1.86
- Garchomp1.90
- Machamp1.91
- Mamoswine1.92
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Aron · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.