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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Aron's top six counters needs 0.32 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.40 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 0:57. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Aron · Tier 3
steelrock
Weak to
fightinggroundwater
Boss CP
10,191
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Aron at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.38)1(0.43)1(0.54)1:161.6
Level 251(0.33)1(0.39)1(0.48)1:081.0
Level 301(0.29)1(0.35)1(0.44)1:010.5
Level 351(0.29)1(0.34)1(0.42)0:590.4
Level 401(0.29)1(0.32)1(0.40)0:570.4
Level 451(0.27)1(0.31)1(0.39)0:540.3
Level 501(0.26)1(0.29)1(0.38)0:520.2

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Keldeo0.29

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Keldeo0.29
  • Lucario0.31
  • Terrakion0.32
  • Blaziken0.33
  • Landorus (Therian)0.33
  • Groudon0.36

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Marshadow0.38
  • Gallade0.39
  • Kartana0.39
  • Mamoswine0.40
  • Garchomp0.40
  • Mewtwo0.40

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo
Low Kick + Secret Sword
2. Lucario
Force Palm + Aura Sphere
3. Terrakion
Double Kick + Sacred Sword
4. Blaziken
Counter + Aura Sphere
5. Landorus (Therian)
Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm
6. Groudon
Mud Shot + Precipice Blades

See the full ranked counter list for Aron · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.