Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 24,095
- Boss HP
- 4,000
- Raid timer
- 180s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.17) | 2(1.50) | 2(1.81) | 4:23 | 5.8 |
| Level 25 | 1(0.95) | 2(1.13) | 2(1.54) | 3:18 | 5.4 |
| Level 30 | 1(0.83) | 1(0.98) | 2(1.35) | 2:53 | 4.9 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.78) | 1(0.94) | 2(1.28) | 2:44 | 4.6 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.79) | 1(0.90) | 2(1.21) | 2:39 | 4.5 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.76) | 1(0.87) | 2(1.17) | 2:33 | 4.3 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.70) | 1(0.84) | 2(1.14) | 2:28 | 4.1 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.79
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.79
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)0.78
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)0.84
- Kyurem (White)0.92
- Kyurem (Black)1.03
- Xurkitree1.06
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyogre1.17
- Dialga (Origin)1.19
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.20
- Empoleon1.20
- Eternatus1.20
- Quaquaval1.21
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Archeops · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.