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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 23h 21m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 6 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Arceus (Psychic)'s top six counters needs 4.44 trainers (round up: 5), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 5.16 (round up: 6). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 20:26. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Arceus (Psychic) · Elite
psychic
Weak to
bugghostdark
Boss CP
56,910
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Arceus (Psychic) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 205(4.74)7(6.65)9(8.47)30:376.0
Level 255(4.33)6(5.59)7(6.90)25:436.0
Level 305(4.07)5(4.93)6(5.70)22:426.0
Level 354(3.56)5(4.68)6(5.39)21:326.0
Level 404(3.52)5(4.44)6(5.16)20:266.0
Level 454(3.36)5(4.17)5(4.96)19:126.0
Level 504(3.29)5(4.08)5(4.83)18:476.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.52

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

5 trainers at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.52
  • Darkrai4.40
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.59
  • Lunala4.66
  • Tyranitar4.69
  • Hydreigon4.77

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

6 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (Black)5.06
  • Eternatus5.09
  • Hoopa5.13
  • Salamence5.14
  • Genesect5.17
  • Genesect (Burn)5.17

The party these numbers assume

1. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Shadow Claw + Moongeist Beam
2. Darkrai
Snarl + Foul Play
3. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash
4. Lunala
Shadow Claw + Shadow Ball
5. Tyranitar
Bite + Brutal Swing
6. Hydreigon
Bite + Brutal Swing

See the full ranked counter list for Arceus (Psychic) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.