Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 6 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Arceus (Poison)'s top six counters needs 4.35 trainers (round up: 5), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 5.29 (round up: 6). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 20:00. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.

Arceus (Poison) · Elite

poison

Weak to

groundpsychic

Boss CP: 56,910
Boss HP: 20,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Arceus (Poison) at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	7(6.76)	7(6.76)	10(9.35)	31:05	6.0
Level 25	6(5.56)	6(5.66)	8(7.19)	26:02	6.0
Level 30	5(4.39)	5(4.86)	6(5.92)	22:22	6.0
Level 35	5(4.10)	5(4.63)	6(5.59)	21:17	6.0
Level 40	4(3.87)	5(4.35)	6(5.29)	20:00	6.0
Level 45	4(3.78)	5(4.22)	6(5.08)	19:25	6.0
Level 50	4(3.60)	5(4.07)	5(4.87)	18:42	6.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

4 trainers at level 40

Mewtwo3.87

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

5 trainers at level 40

Mewtwo3.87
Hoopa (Unbound)4.26
Necrozma (Dusk Mane)4.35
Necrozma (Dawn Wings)4.43
Lunala4.58
Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.59

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

6 trainers at level 40

Latios5.00
Excadrill5.09
Garchomp5.13
Eternatus5.23
Necrozma5.29
Landorus (Incarnate)5.31

The party these numbers assume

1. Mewtwo

Confusion + Psystrike

2. Hoopa (Unbound)

Confusion + Psychic

3. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)

Psycho Cut + Sunsteel Strike

4. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)

Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam

5. Lunala

Confusion + Psychic

6. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)

Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash

See the full ranked counter list for Arceus (Poison) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.