Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 6 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 56,910
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 6(5.31) | 7(6.58) | 9(8.85) | 30:17 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 5(4.44) | 6(5.61) | 7(6.70) | 25:48 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.78) | 5(4.86) | 6(5.68) | 22:22 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.43) | 5(4.65) | 6(5.38) | 21:25 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.35) | 5(4.39) | 6(5.14) | 20:13 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.25) | 5(4.19) | 5(4.87) | 19:17 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 4(3.05) | 5(4.08) | 5(4.72) | 18:46 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.35
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
5 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.35
- Darkrai4.39
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.59
- Lunala4.59
- Tyranitar4.70
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)4.74
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
6 trainers at level 40
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)5.00
- Kyurem (Black)5.02
- Dragapult5.01
- Mewtwo5.09
- Polteageist5.12
- Hoopa5.12
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Arceus (Ghost) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.