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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Arceus (Ghost)'s top six counters needs 2.58 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.04 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 11:51. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Arceus (Ghost) · Tier 5
ghost
Weak to
ghostdark
Boss CP
49,286
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Arceus (Ghost) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.87)4(3.92)5(4.57)18:026.0
Level 253(2.50)4(3.23)4(3.73)14:516.0
Level 303(2.19)3(2.90)4(3.33)13:226.0
Level 353(2.09)3(2.78)4(3.17)12:476.0
Level 403(2.03)3(2.58)4(3.04)11:516.0
Level 452(1.93)3(2.49)3(2.91)11:286.0
Level 502(1.89)3(2.42)3(2.80)11:095.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.03

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.03
  • Darkrai2.66
  • Blacephalon2.64
  • Lunala2.67
  • Tyranitar2.72
  • Kyurem (Black)2.75

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Chandelure2.93
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.99
  • Hoopa (Unbound)2.98
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.98
  • Hoopa2.98
  • Eternatus2.98

The party these numbers assume

1. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Psycho Cut + Moongeist Beam
2. Darkrai
Snarl + Foul Play
3. Blacephalon
Astonish + Shadow Ball
4. Lunala
Shadow Claw + Shadow Ball
5. Tyranitar
Bite + Brutal Swing
6. Kyurem (Black)
Shadow Claw + Freeze Shock

See the full ranked counter list for Arceus (Ghost) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.