Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 24,145
- Boss HP
- 3,600
- Raid timer
- 180s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.03) | 2(1.30) | 2(1.52) | 3:48 | 5.7 |
| Level 25 | 1(0.83) | 2(1.11) | 2(1.29) | 3:15 | 5.1 |
| Level 30 | 1(0.80) | 1(0.99) | 2(1.13) | 2:55 | 4.5 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.77) | 1(0.94) | 2(1.07) | 2:45 | 4.3 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.71) | 1(0.89) | 2(1.03) | 2:37 | 3.8 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.68) | 1(0.87) | 1(0.99) | 2:33 | 3.6 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.69) | 1(0.84) | 1(0.95) | 2:27 | 3.4 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.71
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.71
- Darkrai0.90
- Blacephalon0.91
- Lunala0.94
- Tyranitar0.95
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.96
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Dragapult1.00
- Kingambit1.01
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.01
- Hoopa1.01
- Hoopa (Unbound)1.03
- Mewtwo1.03
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Arceus (Ghost) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.