Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 7 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 56,910
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 9(8.84) | 9(8.56) | 11(10.10) | 39:24 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 7(6.09) | 7(6.36) | 8(7.99) | 29:17 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 5(4.95) | 6(5.39) | 7(6.82) | 24:47 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 5(4.67) | 6(5.12) | 7(6.40) | 23:33 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 5(4.54) | 5(4.89) | 7(6.10) | 22:31 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 5(4.41) | 5(4.74) | 6(5.87) | 21:49 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 5(4.25) | 5(4.60) | 6(5.71) | 21:11 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
5 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)4.54
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
5 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)4.54
- Groudon4.68
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)4.82
- Excadrill5.09
- Eternatus5.11
- Garchomp5.13
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
7 trainers at level 40
- Krookodile5.69
- Kyurem (White)5.68
- Baxcalibur5.98
- Dialga (Origin)6.04
- Golurk6.04
- Mewtwo6.07
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Arceus (Electric) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.