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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Arceus's top six counters needs 2.54 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.16 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 11:42. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Arceus · Tier 5
normal
Weak to
fighting
Boss CP
49,286
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Arceus at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 204(3.91)5(4.17)6(5.12)19:126.0
Level 253(2.68)4(3.34)5(4.17)15:226.0
Level 303(2.35)3(2.93)4(3.54)13:286.0
Level 353(2.18)3(2.73)4(3.36)12:346.0
Level 403(2.12)3(2.54)4(3.16)11:426.0
Level 453(2.07)3(2.46)4(3.06)11:196.0
Level 503(2.03)3(2.36)3(2.95)10:536.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Keldeo2.12

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Keldeo2.12
  • Lucario2.44
  • Terrakion2.45
  • Kartana2.64
  • Blaziken2.79
  • Urshifu (Single Strike)2.82

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Latios3.01
  • Eternatus3.00
  • Raikou3.08
  • Machamp3.12
  • Mewtwo3.14
  • Hisuian Decidueye3.13

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo
Low Kick + Secret Sword
2. Lucario
Force Palm + Aura Sphere
3. Terrakion
Double Kick + Sacred Sword
4. Kartana
Fury Cutter + Sacred Sword
5. Blaziken
Counter + Aura Sphere
6. Urshifu (Single Strike)
Counter + Dynamic Punch

See the full ranked counter list for Arceus · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.