Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Arceus's top six counters needs 0.86 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.07 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 2:31. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 30. A duo works from level 20.

Arceus · Tier 3

normal

Weak to

fighting

Boss CP: 24,145
Boss HP: 3,600
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Arceus at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	2(1.17)	2(1.28)	2(1.59)	3:45	5.8
Level 25	1(0.92)	2(1.09)	2(1.38)	3:12	5.7
Level 30	1(0.77)	1(0.97)	2(1.18)	2:50	5.3
Level 35	1(0.75)	1(0.91)	2(1.11)	2:40	5.1
Level 40	1(0.74)	1(0.86)	2(1.07)	2:31	4.9
Level 45	1(0.72)	1(0.83)	2(1.03)	2:26	4.7
Level 50	1(0.66)	1(0.79)	1(0.99)	2:19	4.4

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Keldeo0.74

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Keldeo0.74
Lucario0.81
Terrakion0.83
Kartana0.90
Blaziken0.93
Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.96

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.02
Mewtwo1.02
Marshadow1.05
Machamp1.07
Raikou1.08
Latios1.06

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo

Low Kick + Secret Sword

2. Lucario

Force Palm + Aura Sphere

3. Terrakion

Double Kick + Sacred Sword

4. Kartana

Fury Cutter + Sacred Sword

5. Blaziken

Counter + Aura Sphere

6. Zacian (Crowned Sword)

Metal Claw + Behemoth Blade

See the full ranked counter list for Arceus · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.