Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 57,868
- Boss HP
- 25,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.51) | 4(3.42) | 4(3.84) | 15:44 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.78) | 3(2.85) | 4(3.25) | 13:06 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.15) | 3(2.49) | 3(2.87) | 11:26 | 5.9 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.01) | 3(2.35) | 3(2.73) | 10:50 | 5.8 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.91) | 3(2.25) | 3(2.61) | 10:21 | 5.8 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.81) | 3(2.17) | 3(2.51) | 10:00 | 5.7 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.76) | 3(2.08) | 3(2.42) | 9:35 | 5.7 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon1.91
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon1.91
- Reshiram2.13
- Heatran2.31
- Volcarona2.32
- Cinderace2.37
- Darmanitan (Standard)2.45
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.51
- Entei2.55
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)2.57
- Moltres2.58
- Incineroar2.57
- Volcanion2.59
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Mega Abomasnow · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.