Groudon counters

#0383

groundElite

Lobby CP

62,829

20,000

Timer

5:00

Attack

280

Defense

239

Difficulty

3.62

Pokebattler scale

Beating Groudon should take 4 trainers with level 40 counters. Caught CP 2,260-2,351.

Weak towater1.6xgrass1.6xice1.6x

Who to bring

IncludeMega Legendary Shadow

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Weather

★ boosts a type this boss is weak to

No boost Sunny or clear ★Rainy ★Partly cloudy Cloudy Windy Snow ★Fog

Friendship

every trainer in the lobby who is your friend

None Good friend (+3%)Great friend (+5%)Ultra friend (+7%)Best friend (+10%)

Mega in the lobby

a Mega boosts every trainer's attacks: 1.3x of its own type, 1.1x of others

Try an Ice Mega — most top counters attack with Ice

Party Power

Party Play: the charged move after a full meter does 2x

Off 2 trainers 3 trainers 4 trainers

Adventure Effects

only these three change a raid

Behemoth Blade (+10% attack)Behemoth Bash (+10% defense)Dynamic Punch+ (+15% attack vs Mega)

Of the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.

Best counters

Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40

The best Groudon counters are Kyurem (White), Mega Sceptile, Kyurem (Black), Shadow Kyogre, Zarude & Zamazenta (Crowned Shield).

Suggested party of sixat most one Mega

Kyurem (White)
M. Sceptile
Kyurem (Black)
S. Kyogre
Zarude
Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)

12 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.

Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %

1Kyurem (White)LegendarypartyIce Fang / Ice Burn3.5916:30
2Mega SceptileMegapartyFury Cutter / Frenzy Plant3.5916:31
3Primal KyogreMegaLegendaryWaterfall / Origin Pulse3.5916:32
4Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Future Sight+3.6116:37
5Mega ChesnaughtMegaVine Whip / Seed Bomb+3.6416:46
6Mega StarmieMegaPsywave / Liquidation+3.7317:09
7Mega Mewtwo XMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Dynamic Punch+3.9017:57
8Kyurem (Black)LegendarypartyDragon Tail / Freeze Shock4.0718:43
9Mega RayquazaMegaLegendaryDragon Tail / Dragon Ascent4.0918:49
10Mega GreninjaMegaWater Shuriken / Surf+4.1218:58
11Shadow KyogreShadowLegendarypartyWaterfall / Origin Pulse4.4720:33
14ZarudeLegendarypartyVine Whip / Power Whip4.5721:03
18Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)LegendarypartyIce Fang / Behemoth Bash4.8622:21

More orders under All settings (Sort by). The top 15 in detail.

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Related countersPrimal Groudon

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Top 15 Groudon counters in detail

Click a row for damage per move, breakpoints and the energy cycle. Click a column to sort. All 30 ranked attackers, with every column, are under All settings.

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#	Attacker	Moveset
1	Kyurem (White)dragonicejoint top pick	iceIce FangiceIce Burn	4,605	16:30	3.59	6.0	30.7%
2	Mega Sceptilegrassdragonjoint top pick	bugFury CuttergrassFrenzy Plant	4,056	16:31	3.59	6.0	30.7%
3	Primal Kyogrewaterjoint top pick	waterWaterfallwaterOrigin Pulse	5,902	16:32	3.59	6.0	30.7%
4	Mega Mewtwo Ypsychicjoint top pick	psychicPsycho CutpsychicFuture Sight+	6,428	16:37	3.61	6.0	30.5%
5	Mega Chesnaughtgrassfightingjoint top pick	grassVine WhipgrassSeed Bomb+	4,093	16:46	3.64	6.0	30.2%
6	Mega Starmiewaterpsychic	psychicPsywavewaterLiquidation+	3,701	17:09	3.73	6.0	29.5%
7	Mega Mewtwo Xpsychicfighting	psychicPsycho CutfightingDynamic Punch+	6,112	17:57	3.90	6.0	28.2%
8	Kyurem (Black)dragonice	dragonDragon TailiceFreeze Shock	4,605	18:43	4.07	6.0	27.1%
9	Mega Rayquazadragonflying	dragonDragon TailflyingDragon Ascent	5,713	18:49	4.09	6.0	26.9%
10	Mega Greninjawaterdark	waterWater ShurikenwaterSurf+	3,784	18:58	4.12	6.0	26.7%
11	Shadow Kyogrewater	waterWaterfallwaterOrigin Pulse	4,115	20:33	4.47	6.0	24.7%
12	Mega Swampertwaterground	waterWater GunwaterHydro Cannon	4,401	20:56	4.55	6.0	24.2%
13	Mega Venusaurgrasspoison	grassVine WhipgrassFrenzy Plant	3,698	20:58	4.56	6.0	24.2%
14	Zarudedarkgrass	grassVine WhipgrassPower Whip	3,833	21:03	4.57	6.0	24.1%
15	Mega Gardevoirpsychicfairy	grassMagical LeaficeTriple Axel	4,512	21:11	4.60	6.0	23.9%

Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.

Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Groudon.

Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Groudon's HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.

“Joint top pick”: 5 attackers inside 2.1% of each other — this simulator's own accuracy against pokebattler.com (median 1.6% per attacker), so any of them is the right answer.

Hardest movesets to raid against

The same boss is a different fight depending on what it knows. Each row re-simulates the top 6 counters above against one specific moveset; the list is ordered hardest first, and clicking a row filters the whole page to that moveset — the ranking, the estimator and the share link all follow.

Boss moveset	Win % (4)	Overall	Power	Time to win	Faints	Estimator
Random (any moveset)showing	61%	25%	26.3%	19:15	6.0	4.18
Mud Shot / Solar Beam	50%	31%	25.3%	20:03	6.0	4.36
Dragon Tail / Solar Beam	50%	29%	25.8%	19:36	6.0	4.26
Dragon Tail / Earthquake	67%	22%	26.4%	19:14	6.0	4.18
Mud Shot / Earthquake	67%	26%	26.6%	19:02	6.0	4.14
Dragon Tail / Fire Blast	67%	24%	26.8%	18:54	6.0	4.11
Mud Shot / Fire Blast	67%	27%	27.2%	18:40	6.0	4.06

Measured over the top 6 attackers on the list above rather than by re-ranking the whole roster once per moveset — the ordering is what the table is for, and a full re-rank per moveset would cost ten times the page's whole simulation budget. Win % is the share of runs 4 trainers of those attackers finish inside the raid timer. Overall is Pokebattler's published blend on its own absolute scale (higher is easier), not a percentage of the best row the way the ranked table's Overall column is — which is why an easy boss reads well above 100% here.

Simulating each boss moveset…

Groudon weaknesses and resistances

Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.

water1.6x grass1.6x ice1.6x normal1x fighting1x flying1x ground1x bug1x ghost1x steel1x fire1x psychic1x dragon1x dark1x fairy1x poison0.63x rock0.63x electric0.39x

Weak (3)
Neutral (12)
Resists (3)

It resists electric0.39xpoison0.625xrock0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.

What Groudon throws at you

Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.

Fast moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
dragonDragon Tail	14	+8	1.0s	0.75s
groundMud ShotSTAB	4	+6	0.5s	0.25s

Charged moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
groundEarthquakeSTAB	140	-100	3.5s	2.60s
grassSolar Beam	180	-100	5.0s	2.80s
fireFire Blast	140	-100	4.0s	2.90s

Catch CP

What the encounter after the fight can hand you.

IV spread	CP at L20	CP at L25 (weather boosted)
10/10/10floor	2,260	2,825
11/11/11	2,278	2,848
12/12/12	2,296	2,871
13/13/13	2,315	2,893
14/14/14	2,333	2,916
15/15/15hundo	2,351	2,939

Caught CP range 2,260 - 2,351, or 2,825 - 2,939 when the weather boosts it.

A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.

When it is in raids

From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.

Groudon is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.

All settings

Elite: 20,000 HP, 5:00 timer, boss Attack 280 / Defense 239 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.985).

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Attackers allowed

ShadowMega and PrimalLegendary, Mythical, Ultra BeastLegacy and Elite TM moves

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Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank

On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.

#	Attacker	Moveset	Overall	Power	Est.Estimator	TimeTime to win	Faints	Win % (4)	CP	DPS	TDO
1	Kyurem (White) top pickdragonice Ice Fang / Ice Burn	Ice Fang / Ice Burn+17 more movesets	99%	30.7%	3.59	16:30	49.5	100%	4,605	21.7	386
2	Mega Sceptile top pickgrassdragonmega Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant	Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant+11 more movesets	98%	30.7%	3.59	16:31	50.4	100%	4,056	21.7	400
3	Primal Kyogre top pickwatermega Waterfall / Origin Pulse	Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets	98%	30.7%	3.59	16:32	52.0	100%	5,902	21.8	435
4	Mega Mewtwo Y top pickpsychicmega Psycho Cut / Future Sight+	Psycho Cut / Future Sight++26 more movesets	99%	30.5%	3.61	16:37	45.7	100%	6,428	21.4	414
5	Mega Chesnaught top pickgrassfightingmega Vine Whip / Seed Bomb+	Vine Whip / Seed Bomb++20 more movesets	100%	30.2%	3.64	16:46	38.2	100%	4,093	21.0	515
6	Mega Starmie waterpsychicmega Psywave / Liquidation+	Psywave / Liquidation++44 more movesets	93%	29.5%	3.73	17:09	60.8	78%	3,701	21.6	358
7	Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Dynamic Punch+	Psycho Cut / Dynamic Punch++26 more movesets	91%	28.2%	3.90	17:57	49.9	100%	6,112	19.9	379
8	Kyurem (Black) dragonice Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock	Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock+11 more movesets	86%	27.1%	4.07	18:43	53.7	100%	4,605	19.1	356
9	Mega Rayquaza dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent	Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent+11 more movesets	90%	26.9%	4.09	18:49	35.6	100%	5,713	18.5	547
10	Mega Greninja waterdarkmega Water Shuriken / Surf+	Water Shuriken / Surf++17 more movesets	81%	26.7%	4.12	18:58	83.6	46%	3,784	20.0	274
11	Shadow Kyogre watershadow Waterfall / Origin Pulse	Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets	75%	24.7%	4.47	20:33	83.9	68%	4,115	18.5	289
12	Mega Swampert watergroundmega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon	Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+11 more movesets	75%	24.2%	4.55	20:56	75.6	68%	4,401	17.9	338
13	Mega Venusaur grasspoisonmega Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant	Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant+9 more movesets	76%	24.2%	4.56	20:58	64.4	32%	3,698	17.1	356
14	Zarude darkgrass Vine Whip / Power Whip	Vine Whip / Power Whip+5 more movesets	76%	24.1%	4.57	21:03	55.9	0%	3,833	16.9	361
15	Mega Gardevoir psychicfairymega Magical Leaf / Triple Axel	Magical Leaf / Triple Axel+19 more movesets	74%	23.9%	4.60	21:11	67.4	0%	4,512	17.0	282
16	Mega Dragonite dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Outrage+	Dragon Tail / Outrage++26 more movesets	77%	23.3%	4.73	21:45	37.8	0%	4,823	16.0	504
17	Mega Blastoise watermega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon	Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+14 more movesets	70%	23.0%	4.78	22:01	79.9	68%	3,941	17.0	313
18	Zamazenta (Crowned Shield) fightingsteel Ice Fang / Behemoth Bash	Ice Fang / Behemoth Bash+7 more movesets	70%	22.7%	4.86	22:21	70.3	0%	4,172	16.1	311
19	Shadow Greninja waterdarkshadow Water Shuriken / Hydro Cannon	Water Shuriken / Hydro Cannon+14 more movesets	65%	22.0%	5.00	23:00	109.6	34%	2,654	16.6	201
20	Shadow Tangrowth grassshadow Vine Whip / Power Whip	Vine Whip / Power Whip+9 more movesets	65%	21.8%	5.05	23:14	98.3	28%	3,030	16.2	245
21	Shaymin (Sky) grassflying Magical Leaf / Grass Knot	Magical Leaf / Grass Knot+11 more movesets	66%	21.5%	5.12	23:33	83.4	62%	3,592	15.9	408
22	Shadow Sceptile grassshadow Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant	Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant+11 more movesets	64%	21.3%	5.17	23:47	96.4	20%	2,757	15.8	217
23	Shadow Kingler watershadow Bubble / Crabhammer	Bubble / Crabhammer+14 more movesets	62%	21.2%	5.20	23:57	115.7	34%	2,829	16.0	187
24	Shadow Chesnaught grassfightingshadow Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant	Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant+17 more movesets	63%	21.0%	5.24	24:06	99.4	0%	2,954	15.7	245
25	Mega Gyarados waterdarkmega Waterfall / Aqua Tail	Waterfall / Aqua Tail+23 more movesets	62%	20.7%	5.32	24:29	91.9	0%	4,717	15.1	271
26	Kartana grasssteel Razor Leaf / Leaf Blade	Razor Leaf / Leaf Blade+14 more movesets	60%	20.5%	5.39	24:47	123.1	32%	3,677	15.5	197
27	Kyogre water Waterfall / Origin Pulse	Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets	61%	20.3%	5.44	25:01	96.8	6%	4,115	15.2	272
28	Rillaboom grass Razor Leaf / Frenzy Plant	Razor Leaf / Frenzy Plant+9 more movesets	57%	19.2%	5.73	26:23	115.1	0%	3,324	14.6	223
29	Eternatus poisondragon Dragon Tail / Dynamax Cannon	Dragon Tail / Dynamax Cannon+7 more movesets	58%	19.2%	5.75	26:27	92.0	14%	4,429	14.7	357
30	Shadow Galarian Darmanitan (Standard) iceshadow Ice Fang / Avalanche	Ice Fang / Avalanche+7 more movesets	52%	18.3%	6.02	27:41	142.1	0%	3,105	13.7	136

How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).

Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.

Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.

Known weak spots.

Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.

This boss on pokebattler.com. Boss-by-boss accuracy report.

Ranked 30 attackers in 1.7 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.