Groudon counters
#0383Beating Groudon should take 3 trainers with level 40 counters. Caught CP 2,260-2,351.
Weak towater1.6xgrass1.6xice1.6x
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only these three change a raidOf the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.
Best counters
Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40The best Groudon counters are Mega Greninja, Kyurem (White), Kyurem (Black), Shaymin (Sky), Zarude & Shadow Kyogre.
M. Greninja
Kyurem (White)
Kyurem (Black)
Shaymin (Sky)
Zarude
S. Kyogre
8 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.
Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %
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Mega GreninjaMegapartyWater Shuriken / Surf+2.039:21 - 2
Mega ChesnaughtMegaVine Whip / Seed Bomb+2.089:35 - 3
Primal KyogreMegaLegendaryWaterfall / Origin Pulse2.109:40 - 4
Kyurem (White)LegendarypartyIce Fang / Ice Burn2.149:50 - 5
Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Future Sight+2.149:50 - 6
Mega SceptileMegaFury Cutter / Frenzy Plant2.2410:18 - 7
Mega Mewtwo XMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Dynamic Punch+2.3010:36 - 8
Mega RayquazaMegaLegendaryDragon Tail / Dragon Ascent2.4011:04 - 9
Kyurem (Black)LegendarypartyDragon Tail / Freeze Shock2.4011:04 - 10
Mega StarmieMegaWater Gun / Liquidation+2.4911:28 - 12
Shaymin (Sky)LegendarypartyMagical Leaf / Grass Knot2.6412:09 - 13
ZarudeLegendarypartyVine Whip / Power Whip2.6612:13 - 14
Shadow KyogreShadowLegendarypartyWaterfall / Origin Pulse2.7312:33
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Top 15 Groudon counters in detail
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| # | Attacker | Moveset | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | waterWater ShurikenwaterSurf+ | 3,784 | 9:21 | 2.03 | 6.0 | 54.2% | ||
| 2 | grassVine WhipgrassSeed Bomb+ | 4,093 | 9:35 | 2.08 | 6.0 | 52.9% | ||
| 3 | waterWaterfallwaterOrigin Pulse | 5,902 | 9:40 | 2.10 | 6.0 | 52.5% | ||
| 4 | iceIce FangiceIce Burn | 4,605 | 9:50 | 2.14 | 6.0 | 51.5% | ||
| 5 | psychicPsycho CutpsychicFuture Sight+ | 6,428 | 9:50 | 2.14 | 6.0 | 51.5% | ||
| 6 | bugFury CuttergrassFrenzy Plant | 4,056 | 10:18 | 2.24 | 6.0 | 49.2% | ||
| 7 | psychicPsycho CutfightingDynamic Punch+ | 6,112 | 10:36 | 2.30 | 6.0 | 47.8% | ||
| 8 | dragonDragon TailflyingDragon Ascent | 5,713 | 11:04 | 2.40 | 6.0 | 45.8% | ||
| 9 | dragonDragon TailiceFreeze Shock | 4,605 | 11:04 | 2.40 | 6.0 | 45.8% | ||
| 10 | waterWater GunwaterLiquidation+ | 3,701 | 11:28 | 2.49 | 6.0 | 44.2% | ||
| 11 | grassVine WhipgrassFrenzy Plant | 3,698 | 11:41 | 2.54 | 6.0 | 43.4% | ||
| 12 | grassMagical LeafgrassGrass Knot | 3,592 | 12:09 | 2.64 | 5.8 | 41.7% | ||
| 13 | grassVine WhipgrassPower Whip | 3,833 | 12:13 | 2.66 | 6.0 | 41.5% | ||
| 14 | waterWaterfallwaterOrigin Pulse | 4,115 | 12:33 | 2.73 | 6.0 | 40.4% | ||
| 15 | waterWater GunwaterHydro Cannon | 4,401 | 12:34 | 2.73 | 6.0 | 40.3% |
Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.
Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Groudon.
Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Groudon's HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.
Simulating each boss moveset…
Groudon weaknesses and resistances
Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.
What Groudon throws at you
Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.
Fast moves
| Move | Power | Energy | Duration | Hits at |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| dragonDragon Tail | 14 | +8 | 1.0s | 0.75s |
| groundMud ShotSTAB | 4 | +6 | 0.5s | 0.25s |
Charged moves
| Move | Power | Energy | Duration | Hits at |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| groundEarthquakeSTAB | 140 | -100 | 3.5s | 2.60s |
| grassSolar Beam | 180 | -100 | 5.0s | 2.80s |
| fireFire Blast | 140 | -100 | 4.0s | 2.90s |
Catch CP
What the encounter after the fight can hand you.
| IV spread | CP at L20 | CP at L25 (weather boosted) |
|---|---|---|
| 10/10/10floor | 2,260 | 2,825 |
| 11/11/11 | 2,278 | 2,848 |
| 12/12/12 | 2,296 | 2,871 |
| 13/13/13 | 2,315 | 2,893 |
| 14/14/14 | 2,333 | 2,916 |
| 15/15/15hundo | 2,351 | 2,939 |
Caught CP range 2,260 - 2,351, or 2,825 - 2,939 when the weather boosts it.
A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.
When it is in raids
From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.
Groudon is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.
All settings
Tier 5: 15,000 HP, 5:00 timer, boss Attack 225 / Defense 191 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.79).
Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank
On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.
| # | PB # | Attacker | Moveset | Overall | Power | Est.Estimator | TimeTime to win | Faints | Win % (3) | CP | DPS | TDO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 8 | Mega Greninja waterdarkmega Water Shuriken / Surf+ | Water Shuriken / Surf++17 more movesets | 97% | 54.2% | 2.03 | 9:21 | 32.5 | 100% | 3,784 | 29.5 | 531 |
| 2 | 5 | Mega Chesnaught grassfightingmega Vine Whip / Seed Bomb+ | Vine Whip / Seed Bomb++20 more movesets | 100% | 52.9% | 2.08 | 9:35 | 18.5 | 100% | 4,093 | 27.3 | 819 |
| 3 | 1 | Primal Kyogre watermega Waterfall / Origin Pulse | Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets | 98% | 52.5% | 2.10 | 9:40 | 21.2 | 100% | 5,902 | 27.2 | 710 |
| 4 | 2 | Kyurem (White) dragonice Ice Fang / Ice Burn | Ice Fang / Ice Burn+17 more movesets | 94% | 51.5% | 2.14 | 9:50 | 25.5 | 100% | 4,605 | 27.0 | 566 |
| 5 | 10 | Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Psycho Cut / Future Sight+ | Psycho Cut / Future Sight++26 more movesets | 95% | 51.5% | 2.14 | 9:50 | 22.9 | 100% | 6,428 | 26.8 | 620 |
| 6 | 3 | Mega Sceptile grassdragonmega Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant | Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant+11 more movesets | 89% | 49.2% | 2.24 | 10:18 | 28.9 | 100% | 4,056 | 25.9 | 512 |
| 7 | 11 | Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Dynamic Punch+ | Psycho Cut / Dynamic Punch++26 more movesets | 87% | 47.8% | 2.30 | 10:36 | 25.3 | 100% | 6,112 | 24.9 | 561 |
| 8 | 6 | Mega Rayquaza dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent | Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent+11 more movesets | 88% | 45.8% | 2.40 | 11:04 | 16.6 | 100% | 5,713 | 23.4 | 849 |
| 9 | 4 | Kyurem (Black) dragonice Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock | Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock+11 more movesets | 83% | 45.8% | 2.40 | 11:04 | 26.8 | 100% | 4,605 | 24.0 | 544 |
| 10 | — | Mega Starmie waterpsychicmega Water Gun / Liquidation+ | Water Gun / Liquidation++44 more movesets | 78% | 44.2% | 2.49 | 11:28 | 36.7 | 82% | 3,701 | 24.8 | 533 |
| 11 | 9 | Mega Venusaur grasspoisonmega Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant | Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant+9 more movesets | 78% | 43.4% | 2.54 | 11:41 | 28.2 | 100% | 3,698 | 22.6 | 558 |
| 12 | 14 | Shaymin (Sky) grassflying Magical Leaf / Grass Knot | Magical Leaf / Grass Knot+11 more movesets | 75% | 41.7% | 2.64 | 12:09 | 28.5 | 88% | 3,592 | 21.8 | 687 |
| 13 | 12 | Zarude darkgrass Vine Whip / Power Whip | Vine Whip / Power Whip+5 more movesets | 75% | 41.5% | 2.66 | 12:13 | 27.4 | 100% | 3,833 | 21.5 | 528 |
| 14 | 21 | Shadow Kyogre watershadow Waterfall / Origin Pulse | Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets | 69% | 40.4% | 2.73 | 12:33 | 47.2 | 68% | 4,115 | 22.6 | 423 |
| 15 | 15 | Mega Swampert watergroundmega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon | Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+11 more movesets | 70% | 40.3% | 2.73 | 12:34 | 41.7 | 68% | 4,401 | 22.0 | 476 |
| 16 | 17 | Eternatus poisondragon Dragon Tail / Dynamax Cannon | Dragon Tail / Dynamax Cannon+7 more movesets | 72% | 39.8% | 2.77 | 12:44 | 26.7 | 100% | 4,429 | 20.6 | 613 |
| 17 | — | Shadow Gyarados waterflyingshadow Waterfall / Hydro Pump | Waterfall / Hydro Pump+23 more movesets | 71% | 39.6% | 2.78 | 12:48 | 30.1 | 100% | 3,391 | 20.6 | 495 |
| 18 | — | Shadow Palkia waterdragonshadow Dragon Tail / Aqua Tail | Dragon Tail / Aqua Tail+7 more movesets | 69% | 39.3% | 2.80 | 12:54 | 35.3 | 100% | 3,991 | 20.7 | 440 |
| 19 | 18 | Zamazenta (Crowned Shield) fightingsteel Ice Fang / Behemoth Bash | Ice Fang / Behemoth Bash+7 more movesets | 69% | 39.1% | 2.82 | 12:58 | 33.3 | 100% | 4,172 | 20.4 | 447 |
| 20 | 16 | Mega Gardevoir psychicfairymega Magical Leaf / Triple Axel | Magical Leaf / Triple Axel+19 more movesets | 68% | 39.0% | 2.82 | 12:59 | 39.2 | 100% | 4,512 | 20.6 | 362 |
| 21 | 30 | Shadow Regigigas normalshadow Hidden Power / Crush Grip | Hidden Power / Crush Grip+7 more movesets | 69% | 38.6% | 2.85 | 13:08 | 32.9 | 100% | 4,346 | 20.3 | 428 |
| 22 | — | Mega Blastoise watermega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon | Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+14 more movesets | 66% | 38.5% | 2.86 | 13:10 | 44.5 | 68% | 3,941 | 21.0 | 424 |
| 23 | — | Shadow Swampert watergroundshadow Water Gun / Hydro Cannon | Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+11 more movesets | 66% | 38.3% | 2.88 | 13:15 | 47.3 | 68% | 2,974 | 21.0 | 373 |
| 24 | — | Shadow Chesnaught grassfightingshadow Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant | Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant+17 more movesets | 64% | 37.8% | 2.91 | 13:24 | 49.9 | 68% | 2,954 | 20.7 | 348 |
| 25 | — | Shadow Venusaur grasspoisonshadow Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant | Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant+9 more movesets | 64% | 37.8% | 2.91 | 13:24 | 51.1 | 66% | 2,720 | 20.7 | 367 |
| 26 | — | Mega Staraptor fightingflyingmega Sand Attack / Brave Bird+ | Sand Attack / Brave Bird++19 more movesets | 68% | 37.6% | 2.93 | 13:29 | 26.6 | 100% | 3,979 | 19.4 | 561 |
| 27 | — | Shadow Feraligatr watershadow Water Gun / Hydro Cannon | Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+19 more movesets | 63% | 37.2% | 2.96 | 13:36 | 49.9 | 68% | 2,857 | 20.4 | 339 |
| 28 | — | Shadow Sceptile grassshadow Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant | Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant+11 more movesets | 63% | 37.2% | 2.96 | 13:37 | 50.7 | 66% | 2,757 | 20.4 | 314 |
| 29 | 26 | Mega Gallade psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Leaf Blade | Psycho Cut / Leaf Blade+19 more movesets | 64% | 36.8% | 2.99 | 13:45 | 42.4 | 100% | 4,521 | 19.5 | 335 |
| 30 | — | Shadow Tangrowth grassshadow Vine Whip / Power Whip | Vine Whip / Power Whip+9 more movesets | 61% | 36.3% | 3.04 | 13:59 | 52.2 | 66% | 3,030 | 19.8 | 332 |
PB # is pokebattler.com's own rank for the same attacker at these settings (snapshot 2026-09-10). 19 of our 30 rows are on its 30-row list, 8 in both top tens. Sort by Pokebattler's own rank
How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).
Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.
Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.
- Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
- Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
- Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
- Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.
Ranked 30 attackers in 1.3 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.