Groudon counters

#0383

groundTier 5

Lobby CP

54,411

15,000

Timer

5:00

Attack

225

Defense

191

Difficulty

2.12

Pokebattler scale

Beating Groudon should take 3 trainers with level 40 counters. Caught CP 2,260-2,351.

Weak towater1.6xgrass1.6xice1.6x

Who to bring

IncludeMega Legendary Shadow

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Weather

★ boosts a type this boss is weak to

No boost Sunny or clear ★Rainy ★Partly cloudy Cloudy Windy Snow ★Fog

Friendship

every trainer in the lobby who is your friend

None Good friend (+3%)Great friend (+5%)Ultra friend (+7%)Best friend (+10%)

Mega in the lobby

a Mega boosts every trainer's attacks: 1.3x of its own type, 1.1x of others

Try a Water Mega — most top counters attack with Water

Party Power

Party Play: the charged move after a full meter does 2x

Off 2 trainers 3 trainers 4 trainers

Adventure Effects

only these three change a raid

Behemoth Blade (+10% attack)Behemoth Bash (+10% defense)Dynamic Punch+ (+15% attack vs Mega)

Of the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.

Best counters

Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40

The best Groudon counters are Mega Greninja, Kyurem (White), Kyurem (Black), Shaymin (Sky), Zarude & Shadow Kyogre.

Suggested party of sixat most one Mega

M. Greninja
Kyurem (White)
Kyurem (Black)
Shaymin (Sky)
Zarude
S. Kyogre

8 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.

Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %

1Mega GreninjaMegapartyWater Shuriken / Surf+2.039:21
2Mega ChesnaughtMegaVine Whip / Seed Bomb+2.089:35
3Primal KyogreMegaLegendaryWaterfall / Origin Pulse2.109:40
4Kyurem (White)LegendarypartyIce Fang / Ice Burn2.149:50
5Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Future Sight+2.149:50
6Mega SceptileMegaFury Cutter / Frenzy Plant2.2410:18
7Mega Mewtwo XMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Dynamic Punch+2.3010:36
8Mega RayquazaMegaLegendaryDragon Tail / Dragon Ascent2.4011:04
9Kyurem (Black)LegendarypartyDragon Tail / Freeze Shock2.4011:04
10Mega StarmieMegaWater Gun / Liquidation+2.4911:28
12Shaymin (Sky)LegendarypartyMagical Leaf / Grass Knot2.6412:09
13ZarudeLegendarypartyVine Whip / Power Whip2.6612:13
14Shadow KyogreShadowLegendarypartyWaterfall / Origin Pulse2.7312:33

More orders under All settings (Sort by). The top 15 in detail.

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Raid tier — Legendary Raid

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Related countersShadow Groudon Primal Groudon

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Top 15 Groudon counters in detail

Click a row for damage per move, breakpoints and the energy cycle. Click a column to sort. All 30 ranked attackers, with every column, are under All settings.

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#	Attacker	Moveset
1	Mega Greninjawaterdarkjoint top pick	waterWater ShurikenwaterSurf+	3,784	9:21	2.03	6.0	54.2%
2	Mega Chesnaughtgrassfighting	grassVine WhipgrassSeed Bomb+	4,093	9:35	2.08	6.0	52.9%
3	Primal Kyogrewater	waterWaterfallwaterOrigin Pulse	5,902	9:40	2.10	6.0	52.5%
4	Kyurem (White)dragonice	iceIce FangiceIce Burn	4,605	9:50	2.14	6.0	51.5%
5	Mega Mewtwo Ypsychic	psychicPsycho CutpsychicFuture Sight+	6,428	9:50	2.14	6.0	51.5%
6	Mega Sceptilegrassdragon	bugFury CuttergrassFrenzy Plant	4,056	10:18	2.24	6.0	49.2%
7	Mega Mewtwo Xpsychicfighting	psychicPsycho CutfightingDynamic Punch+	6,112	10:36	2.30	6.0	47.8%
8	Mega Rayquazadragonflying	dragonDragon TailflyingDragon Ascent	5,713	11:04	2.40	6.0	45.8%
9	Kyurem (Black)dragonice	dragonDragon TailiceFreeze Shock	4,605	11:04	2.40	6.0	45.8%
10	Mega Starmiewaterpsychic	waterWater GunwaterLiquidation+	3,701	11:28	2.49	6.0	44.2%
11	Mega Venusaurgrasspoison	grassVine WhipgrassFrenzy Plant	3,698	11:41	2.54	6.0	43.4%
12	Shaymin (Sky)grassflying	grassMagical LeafgrassGrass Knot	3,592	12:09	2.64	5.8	41.7%
13	Zarudedarkgrass	grassVine WhipgrassPower Whip	3,833	12:13	2.66	6.0	41.5%
14	Shadow Kyogrewater	waterWaterfallwaterOrigin Pulse	4,115	12:33	2.73	6.0	40.4%
15	Mega Swampertwaterground	waterWater GunwaterHydro Cannon	4,401	12:34	2.73	6.0	40.3%

Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.

Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Groudon.

Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Groudon's HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.

Hardest movesets to raid against

The same boss is a different fight depending on what it knows. Each row re-simulates the top 6 counters above against one specific moveset; the list is ordered hardest first, and clicking a row filters the whole page to that moveset — the ranking, the estimator and the share link all follow.

Boss moveset	Win % (3)	Overall	Power	Time to win	Faints	Estimator
Random (any moveset)showing	93%	47%	45.2%	11:13	6.0	2.44
Mud Shot / Solar Beam	83%	57%	41.5%	12:13	6.0	2.65
Dragon Tail / Solar Beam	83%	51%	42.7%	11:53	6.0	2.58
Dragon Tail / Fire Blast	90%	50%	45.4%	11:09	6.0	2.42
Mud Shot / Fire Blast	100%	55%	47.1%	10:46	6.0	2.34
Mud Shot / Earthquake	100%	61%	47.2%	10:44	5.9	2.33
Dragon Tail / Earthquake	100%	55%	47.8%	10:37	6.0	2.31

Measured over the top 6 attackers on the list above rather than by re-ranking the whole roster once per moveset — the ordering is what the table is for, and a full re-rank per moveset would cost ten times the page's whole simulation budget. Win % is the share of runs 3 trainers of those attackers finish inside the raid timer. Overall is Pokebattler's published blend on its own absolute scale (higher is easier), not a percentage of the best row the way the ranked table's Overall column is — which is why an easy boss reads well above 100% here.

Simulating each boss moveset…

Groudon weaknesses and resistances

Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.

water1.6x grass1.6x ice1.6x normal1x fighting1x flying1x ground1x bug1x ghost1x steel1x fire1x psychic1x dragon1x dark1x fairy1x poison0.63x rock0.63x electric0.39x

Weak (3)
Neutral (12)
Resists (3)

It resists electric0.39xpoison0.625xrock0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.

What Groudon throws at you

Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.

Fast moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
dragonDragon Tail	14	+8	1.0s	0.75s
groundMud ShotSTAB	4	+6	0.5s	0.25s

Charged moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
groundEarthquakeSTAB	140	-100	3.5s	2.60s
grassSolar Beam	180	-100	5.0s	2.80s
fireFire Blast	140	-100	4.0s	2.90s

Catch CP

What the encounter after the fight can hand you.

IV spread	CP at L20	CP at L25 (weather boosted)
10/10/10floor	2,260	2,825
11/11/11	2,278	2,848
12/12/12	2,296	2,871
13/13/13	2,315	2,893
14/14/14	2,333	2,916
15/15/15hundo	2,351	2,939

Caught CP range 2,260 - 2,351, or 2,825 - 2,939 when the weather boosts it.

A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.

When it is in raids

From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.

Groudon is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.

All settings

Tier 5: 15,000 HP, 5:00 timer, boss Attack 225 / Defense 191 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.79).

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Attackers allowed

ShadowMega and PrimalLegendary, Mythical, Ultra BeastLegacy and Elite TM moves

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Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank

On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.

#	PB #	Attacker	Moveset	Overall	Power	Est.Estimator	TimeTime to win	Faints	Win % (3)	CP	DPS	TDO
1	8	Mega Greninja waterdarkmega Water Shuriken / Surf+	Water Shuriken / Surf++17 more movesets	97%	54.2%	2.03	9:21	32.5	100%	3,784	29.5	531
2	5	Mega Chesnaught grassfightingmega Vine Whip / Seed Bomb+	Vine Whip / Seed Bomb++20 more movesets	100%	52.9%	2.08	9:35	18.5	100%	4,093	27.3	819
3	1	Primal Kyogre watermega Waterfall / Origin Pulse	Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets	98%	52.5%	2.10	9:40	21.2	100%	5,902	27.2	710
4	2	Kyurem (White) dragonice Ice Fang / Ice Burn	Ice Fang / Ice Burn+17 more movesets	94%	51.5%	2.14	9:50	25.5	100%	4,605	27.0	566
5	10	Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Psycho Cut / Future Sight+	Psycho Cut / Future Sight++26 more movesets	95%	51.5%	2.14	9:50	22.9	100%	6,428	26.8	620
6	3	Mega Sceptile grassdragonmega Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant	Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant+11 more movesets	89%	49.2%	2.24	10:18	28.9	100%	4,056	25.9	512
7	11	Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Dynamic Punch+	Psycho Cut / Dynamic Punch++26 more movesets	87%	47.8%	2.30	10:36	25.3	100%	6,112	24.9	561
8	6	Mega Rayquaza dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent	Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent+11 more movesets	88%	45.8%	2.40	11:04	16.6	100%	5,713	23.4	849
9	4	Kyurem (Black) dragonice Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock	Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock+11 more movesets	83%	45.8%	2.40	11:04	26.8	100%	4,605	24.0	544
10	—	Mega Starmie waterpsychicmega Water Gun / Liquidation+	Water Gun / Liquidation++44 more movesets	78%	44.2%	2.49	11:28	36.7	82%	3,701	24.8	533
11	9	Mega Venusaur grasspoisonmega Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant	Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant+9 more movesets	78%	43.4%	2.54	11:41	28.2	100%	3,698	22.6	558
12	14	Shaymin (Sky) grassflying Magical Leaf / Grass Knot	Magical Leaf / Grass Knot+11 more movesets	75%	41.7%	2.64	12:09	28.5	88%	3,592	21.8	687
13	12	Zarude darkgrass Vine Whip / Power Whip	Vine Whip / Power Whip+5 more movesets	75%	41.5%	2.66	12:13	27.4	100%	3,833	21.5	528
14	21	Shadow Kyogre watershadow Waterfall / Origin Pulse	Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets	69%	40.4%	2.73	12:33	47.2	68%	4,115	22.6	423
15	15	Mega Swampert watergroundmega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon	Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+11 more movesets	70%	40.3%	2.73	12:34	41.7	68%	4,401	22.0	476
16	17	Eternatus poisondragon Dragon Tail / Dynamax Cannon	Dragon Tail / Dynamax Cannon+7 more movesets	72%	39.8%	2.77	12:44	26.7	100%	4,429	20.6	613
17	—	Shadow Gyarados waterflyingshadow Waterfall / Hydro Pump	Waterfall / Hydro Pump+23 more movesets	71%	39.6%	2.78	12:48	30.1	100%	3,391	20.6	495
18	—	Shadow Palkia waterdragonshadow Dragon Tail / Aqua Tail	Dragon Tail / Aqua Tail+7 more movesets	69%	39.3%	2.80	12:54	35.3	100%	3,991	20.7	440
19	18	Zamazenta (Crowned Shield) fightingsteel Ice Fang / Behemoth Bash	Ice Fang / Behemoth Bash+7 more movesets	69%	39.1%	2.82	12:58	33.3	100%	4,172	20.4	447
20	16	Mega Gardevoir psychicfairymega Magical Leaf / Triple Axel	Magical Leaf / Triple Axel+19 more movesets	68%	39.0%	2.82	12:59	39.2	100%	4,512	20.6	362
21	30	Shadow Regigigas normalshadow Hidden Power / Crush Grip	Hidden Power / Crush Grip+7 more movesets	69%	38.6%	2.85	13:08	32.9	100%	4,346	20.3	428
22	—	Mega Blastoise watermega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon	Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+14 more movesets	66%	38.5%	2.86	13:10	44.5	68%	3,941	21.0	424
23	—	Shadow Swampert watergroundshadow Water Gun / Hydro Cannon	Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+11 more movesets	66%	38.3%	2.88	13:15	47.3	68%	2,974	21.0	373
24	—	Shadow Chesnaught grassfightingshadow Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant	Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant+17 more movesets	64%	37.8%	2.91	13:24	49.9	68%	2,954	20.7	348
25	—	Shadow Venusaur grasspoisonshadow Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant	Vine Whip / Frenzy Plant+9 more movesets	64%	37.8%	2.91	13:24	51.1	66%	2,720	20.7	367
26	—	Mega Staraptor fightingflyingmega Sand Attack / Brave Bird+	Sand Attack / Brave Bird++19 more movesets	68%	37.6%	2.93	13:29	26.6	100%	3,979	19.4	561
27	—	Shadow Feraligatr watershadow Water Gun / Hydro Cannon	Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+19 more movesets	63%	37.2%	2.96	13:36	49.9	68%	2,857	20.4	339
28	—	Shadow Sceptile grassshadow Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant	Fury Cutter / Frenzy Plant+11 more movesets	63%	37.2%	2.96	13:37	50.7	66%	2,757	20.4	314
29	26	Mega Gallade psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Leaf Blade	Psycho Cut / Leaf Blade+19 more movesets	64%	36.8%	2.99	13:45	42.4	100%	4,521	19.5	335
30	—	Shadow Tangrowth grassshadow Vine Whip / Power Whip	Vine Whip / Power Whip+9 more movesets	61%	36.3%	3.04	13:59	52.2	66%	3,030	19.8	332

PB # is pokebattler.com's own rank for the same attacker at these settings (snapshot 2026-09-10). 19 of our 30 rows are on its 30-row list, 8 in both top tens. Sort by Pokebattler's own rank

How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).

Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.

Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.

Known weak spots.

Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.

This boss on pokebattler.com. Boss-by-boss accuracy report.

Ranked 30 attackers in 1.3 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.