Cinderace counters
#0815Beating Cinderace should take 1 trainer with level 40 counters. Caught CP 1,646-1,724.
Weak toground1.6xrock1.6xwater1.6x
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only these three change a raidOf the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.
Best counters
Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40The best Cinderace counters are Mega Greninja, Shadow Landorus (Therian), Shadow Kyogre, Shadow Gigalith, Shadow Tyrantrum & Shadow Landorus (Incarnate).
M. Greninja
S. Landorus (Therian)
S. Kyogre
S. Gigalith
S. Tyrantrum
S. Landorus (Incarnate)
4 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.
Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %
- 1
Mega GreninjaMegapartyBubble / Surf+0.060:11 - 2
Mega StarmieMegaWater Gun / Liquidation+0.060:12 - 3
Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendaryConfusion / Future Sight+0.070:12 - 4
Shadow Landorus (Therian)ShadowLegendarypartyMud Shot / Sandsear Storm0.070:12 - 5
Shadow KyogreShadowLegendarypartyWaterfall / Origin Pulse0.080:14 - 6
Shadow GigalithShadowpartyLock-On / Meteor Beam0.080:14 - 7
Mega SwampertMegaWater Gun / Hydro Cannon0.080:14 - 8
Shadow TyrantrumShadowpartyRock Throw / Meteor Beam0.080:14 - 9
Primal KyogreMegaLegendaryWaterfall / Origin Pulse0.080:14 - 10
Shadow Landorus (Incarnate)ShadowLegendarypartyMud Shot / Earth Power0.080:14
More orders under All settings (Sort by). The top 15 in detail.
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Top 15 Cinderace counters in detail
Click a row for damage per move, breakpoints and the energy cycle. Click a column to sort. All 30 ranked attackers, with every column, are under All settings.
| # | Attacker | Moveset | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | waterBubblewaterSurf+ | 3,784 | 0:11 | 0.06 | 0.0 | 3791.1% | ||
| 2 | waterWater GunwaterLiquidation+ | 3,701 | 0:12 | 0.06 | 0.0 | 3754.5% | ||
| 3 | psychicConfusionpsychicFuture Sight+ | 6,428 | 0:12 | 0.07 | 0.0 | 3636.9% | ||
| 4 | groundMud ShotgroundSandsear Storm | 3,922 | 0:12 | 0.07 | 0.0 | 3633.1% | ||
| 5 | waterWaterfallwaterOrigin Pulse | 4,115 | 0:14 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 3219.8% | ||
| 6 | normalLock-OnrockMeteor Beam | 3,228 | 0:14 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 3175.3% | ||
| 7 | waterWater GunwaterHydro Cannon | 4,401 | 0:14 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 3114.0% | ||
| 8 | rockRock ThrowrockMeteor Beam | 3,128 | 0:14 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 3109.6% | ||
| 9 | waterWaterfallwaterOrigin Pulse | 5,902 | 0:14 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 3070.2% | ||
| 10 | groundMud ShotgroundEarth Power | 3,588 | 0:14 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 3057.2% | ||
| 11 | groundMud ShotgroundEarthquake | 5,902 | 0:14 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 3006.6% | ||
| 12 | psychicConfusionfightingDynamic Punch+ | 6,112 | 0:14 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 3006.6% | ||
| 13 | groundMud-SlapgroundEarthquake | 3,733 | 0:15 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 2998.3% | ||
| 14 | groundMud ShotgroundEarth Power | 3,962 | 0:15 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 2994.2% | ||
| 15 | groundMud ShotgroundEarth Power | 5,424 | 0:15 | 0.08 | 0.0 | 2949.7% |
Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.
Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Cinderace.
Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Cinderace's HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.
“Joint top pick”: 2 attackers inside 2.1% of each other — this simulator's own accuracy against pokebattler.com (median 1.6% per attacker), so any of them is the right answer.
Simulating each boss moveset…
Cinderace weaknesses and resistances
Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.
- Weak (3)
- Neutral (9)
- Resists (6)
It resists bug0.625xsteel0.625xfire0.625xgrass0.625xice0.625xfairy0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.
What Cinderace throws at you
Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.
Fast moves
| Move | Power | Energy | Duration | Hits at |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| fireFire SpinSTAB | 13 | +9 | 1.0s | 0.75s |
| fireEmberSTAB | 10 | +10 | 1.0s | 0.60s |
| normalTackle | 5 | +5 | 0.5s | 0.30s |
Charged moves
| Move | Power | Energy | Duration | Hits at |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| firePyroballSTAB | 150 | -100 | 2.0s | 0.90s |
| fightingFocus Blast | 140 | -100 | 3.5s | 3.00s |
| fireFlamethrowerSTAB | 65 | -50 | 2.0s | 1.30s |
| fireFlame ChargeSTAB | 70 | -33 | 4.0s | 3.10s |
Catch CP
What the encounter after the fight can hand you.
| IV spread | CP at L20 | CP at L25 (weather boosted) |
|---|---|---|
| 10/10/10floor | 1,646 | 2,058 |
| 11/11/11 | 1,661 | 2,077 |
| 12/12/12 | 1,677 | 2,097 |
| 13/13/13 | 1,693 | 2,116 |
| 14/14/14 | 1,708 | 2,136 |
| 15/15/15hundo | 1,724 | 2,156 |
Caught CP range 1,646 - 1,724, or 2,058 - 2,156 when the weather boosts it.
A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.
When it is in raids
From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.
Cinderace is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.
All settings
Tier 1: 600 HP, 3:00 timer, boss Attack 151 / Defense 106 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.5974).
Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank
On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.
| # | Attacker | Moveset | Overall | Power | Est.Estimator | TimeTime to win | Faints | Win % (1) | CP | DPS | TDO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mega Greninja top pickwaterdarkmega Bubble / Surf+ | Bubble / Surf++17 more movesets | 98% | 3791.1% | 0.06 | 0:11 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,784 | 53.4 | 614 |
| 2 | Mega Starmie top pickwaterpsychicmega Water Gun / Liquidation+ | Water Gun / Liquidation++44 more movesets | 100% | 3754.5% | 0.06 | 0:12 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,701 | 60.6 | 703 |
| 3 | Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Confusion / Future Sight+ | Confusion / Future Sight++26 more movesets | 93% | 3636.9% | 0.07 | 0:12 | 0.0 | 100% | 6,428 | 51.1 | 611 |
| 4 | Shadow Landorus (Therian) groundflyingshadow Mud Shot / Sandsear Storm | Mud Shot / Sandsear Storm+9 more movesets | 85% | 3633.1% | 0.07 | 0:12 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,922 | 50.0 | 600 |
| 5 | Shadow Kyogre watershadow Waterfall / Origin Pulse | Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets | 78% | 3219.8% | 0.08 | 0:14 | 0.0 | 100% | 4,115 | 50.3 | 678 |
| 6 | Shadow Gigalith rockshadow Lock-On / Meteor Beam | Lock-On / Meteor Beam+14 more movesets | 75% | 3175.3% | 0.08 | 0:14 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,228 | 46.4 | 636 |
| 7 | Mega Swampert watergroundmega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon | Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+11 more movesets | 77% | 3114.0% | 0.08 | 0:14 | 0.0 | 100% | 4,401 | 43.1 | 604 |
| 8 | Shadow Tyrantrum rockdragonshadow Rock Throw / Meteor Beam | Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets | 73% | 3109.6% | 0.08 | 0:14 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,128 | 43.9 | 616 |
| 9 | Primal Kyogre watermega Waterfall / Origin Pulse | Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets | 80% | 3070.2% | 0.08 | 0:14 | 0.0 | 100% | 5,902 | 53.7 | 761 |
| 10 | Shadow Landorus (Incarnate) groundflyingshadow Mud Shot / Earth Power | Mud Shot / Earth Power+7 more movesets | 68% | 3057.2% | 0.08 | 0:14 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,588 | 43.5 | 619 |
| 11 | Primal Groudon groundfiremega Mud Shot / Earthquake | Mud Shot / Earthquake+9 more movesets | 77% | 3006.6% | 0.08 | 0:14 | 0.0 | 100% | 5,902 | 42.1 | 610 |
| 12 | Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Confusion / Dynamic Punch+ | Confusion / Dynamic Punch++26 more movesets | 71% | 3006.6% | 0.08 | 0:14 | 0.0 | 100% | 6,112 | 41.7 | 604 |
| 13 | Shadow Rhyperior groundrockshadow Mud-Slap / Earthquake | Mud-Slap / Earthquake+15 more movesets | 70% | 2998.3% | 0.08 | 0:15 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,733 | 42.4 | 616 |
| 14 | Shadow Garchomp dragongroundshadow Mud Shot / Earth Power | Mud Shot / Earth Power+13 more movesets | 72% | 2994.2% | 0.08 | 0:15 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,962 | 43.0 | 625 |
| 15 | Mega Garchomp dragongroundmega Mud Shot / Earth Power | Mud Shot / Earth Power+13 more movesets | 76% | 2949.7% | 0.08 | 0:15 | 0.0 | 100% | 5,424 | 45.8 | 677 |
| 16 | Shadow Rampardos rockshadow Smack Down / Rock Slide | Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets | 63% | 2936.2% | 0.08 | 0:15 | 0.2 | 100% | 3,298 | 47.9 | 655 |
| 17 | Shadow Kingler watershadow Mud Shot / Razor Shell | Mud Shot / Razor Shell+14 more movesets | 62% | 2877.2% | 0.08 | 0:15 | 0.1 | 100% | 2,829 | 41.7 | 610 |
| 18 | Mega Diancie rockfairymega Rock Throw / Rock Slide | Rock Throw / Rock Slide+5 more movesets | 67% | 2864.4% | 0.08 | 0:15 | 0.0 | 100% | 4,346 | 46.9 | 714 |
| 19 | Mega Tyranitar rockdarkmega Smack Down / Stone Edge | Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets | 68% | 2842.0% | 0.09 | 0:15 | 0.0 | 100% | 5,347 | 41.8 | 641 |
| 20 | Shadow Palkia waterdragonshadow Dragon Tail / Hydro Pump | Dragon Tail / Hydro Pump+7 more movesets | 69% | 2812.6% | 0.09 | 0:15 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,991 | 39.8 | 617 |
| 21 | Kyogre water Waterfall / Origin Pulse | Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets | 68% | 2812.6% | 0.09 | 0:15 | 0.0 | 100% | 4,115 | 40.2 | 623 |
| 22 | Shadow Gyarados waterflyingshadow Waterfall / Hydro Pump | Waterfall / Hydro Pump+23 more movesets | 65% | 2791.0% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,391 | 41.2 | 643 |
| 23 | Mega Aerodactyl rockflyingmega Rock Throw / Rock Slide | Rock Throw / Rock Slide+23 more movesets | 65% | 2769.7% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.0 | 100% | 4,118 | 40.8 | 641 |
| 24 | Shadow Feraligatr watershadow Waterfall / Hydro Cannon | Waterfall / Hydro Cannon+19 more movesets | 62% | 2745.3% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.0 | 100% | 2,857 | 40.2 | 637 |
| 25 | Shadow Greninja waterdarkshadow Water Shuriken / Hydro Cannon | Water Shuriken / Hydro Cannon+14 more movesets | 59% | 2743.9% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.2 | 100% | 2,654 | 45.4 | 644 |
| 26 | Shadow Excadrill groundsteelshadow Mud-Slap / Scorching Sands | Mud-Slap / Scorching Sands+14 more movesets | 55% | 2727.9% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.4 | 100% | 3,244 | 41.8 | 537 |
| 27 | Shadow Crawdaunt waterdarkshadow Waterfall / Crabhammer | Waterfall / Crabhammer+11 more movesets | 57% | 2725.9% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.2 | 100% | 2,474 | 40.9 | 580 |
| 28 | Mega Blastoise watermega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon | Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+14 more movesets | 65% | 2724.7% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,941 | 37.5 | 600 |
| 29 | Glimmora rockpoison Rock Throw / Meteor Beam | Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+7 more movesets | 63% | 2724.7% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.0 | 100% | 3,273 | 38.2 | 611 |
| 30 | Shadow Hisuian Samurott waterdarkshadow Waterfall / Razor Shell | Waterfall / Razor Shell+14 more movesets | 57% | 2690.7% | 0.09 | 0:16 | 0.1 | 100% | 2,802 | 39.1 | 592 |
How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).
Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.
Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.
- Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
- Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
- Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
- Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.
Ranked 30 attackers in 0.5 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.