Thievul counters

#0828

darkElite

Lobby CP

35,382

20,000

Timer

5:00

Attack

184

Defense

176

Difficulty

2.23

Pokebattler scale

Beating Thievul should take 2 trainers with level 40 counters. Caught CP 1,155-1,221.

Weak tofighting1.6xbug1.6xfairy1.6x

Who to bring

IncludeMega Legendary Shadow

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Weather

★ boosts a type this boss is weak to

No boost Sunny or clear Rainy ★Partly cloudy Cloudy ★Windy Snow Fog

Friendship

every trainer in the lobby who is your friend

None Good friend (+3%)Great friend (+5%)Ultra friend (+7%)Best friend (+10%)

Mega in the lobby

a Mega boosts every trainer's attacks: 1.3x of its own type, 1.1x of others

Try a Fighting Mega — most top counters attack with Fighting

Party Power

Party Play: the charged move after a full meter does 2x

Off 2 trainers 3 trainers 4 trainers

Adventure Effects

only these three change a raid

Behemoth Blade (+10% attack)Behemoth Bash (+10% defense)Dynamic Punch+ (+15% attack vs Mega)

Of the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.

Best counters

Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40

The best Thievul counters are Mega Mewtwo X, Keldeo, Shadow Blaziken, Lucario, Kartana & Shadow Conkeldurr.

Suggested party of sixat most one Mega

M. Mewtwo X
Keldeo
S. Blaziken
Lucario
Kartana
S. Conkeldurr

7 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.

Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %

1Mega Mewtwo XMegaLegendarypartyCounter / Dynamic Punch+1.808:18
2Mega LucarioMegaForce Palm / Aura Sphere2.149:50
3Mega BlazikenMegaCounter / Aura Sphere2.1810:01
4Mega BeedrillMegaBug Bite / Fell Stinger+2.2610:23
5KeldeoLegendarypartyLow Kick / Secret Sword2.4911:28
6Mega FalinksMegaCounter / Brick Break+2.5011:29
7Mega GalladeMegaLow Kick / Sacred Sword2.5211:35
8Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendaryCounter / Focus Blast2.5511:44
9Shadow BlazikenShadowpartyCounter / Aura Sphere2.5511:44
10Mega HeracrossMegaFury Cutter / Megahorn2.6712:18
11LucariopartyForce Palm / Aura Sphere2.7812:47
12KartanaLegendarypartyFury Cutter / Sacred Sword2.8413:04
13Shadow ConkeldurrShadowpartyForce Palm / Dynamic Punch2.8413:04

More orders under All settings (Sort by). The top 15 in detail.

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Top 15 Thievul counters in detail

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#	Attacker	Moveset
1	Mega Mewtwo Xpsychicfightingjoint top pick	fightingCounterfightingDynamic Punch+	6,112	8:18	1.80	6.0	61.1%
2	Mega Lucariofightingsteel	fightingForce PalmfightingAura Sphere	3,826	9:50	2.14	6.0	51.5%
3	Mega Blazikenfirefighting	fightingCounterfightingAura Sphere	4,161	10:01	2.18	6.0	50.6%
4	Mega Beedrillbugpoison	bugBug BitebugFell Stinger+	3,383	10:23	2.26	6.0	48.8%
5	Keldeowaterfighting	fightingLow KickfightingSecret Sword	3,698	11:28	2.49	5.6	44.2%
6	Mega Falinksfighting	fightingCounterfightingBrick Break+	3,670	11:29	2.50	5.7	44.1%
7	Mega Galladepsychicfighting	fightingLow KickfightingSacred Sword	4,521	11:35	2.52	6.0	43.7%
8	Mega Mewtwo Ypsychic	fightingCounterfightingFocus Blast	6,428	11:44	2.55	6.0	43.2%
9	Shadow Blazikenfirefighting	fightingCounterfightingAura Sphere	2,848	11:44	2.55	6.0	43.2%
10	Mega Heracrossbugfighting	bugFury CutterbugMegahorn	4,814	12:18	2.67	5.5	41.2%
11	Lucariofightingsteel	fightingForce PalmfightingAura Sphere	2,703	12:47	2.78	6.0	39.6%
12	Kartanagrasssteel	bugFury CutterfightingSacred Sword	3,677	13:04	2.84	6.0	38.8%
13	Shadow Conkeldurrfighting	fightingForce PalmfightingDynamic Punch	3,337	13:04	2.84	6.0	38.8%
14	Mega Gardevoirpsychicfairy	fairyCharmfairyDazzling Gleam	4,512	13:06	2.85	6.0	38.7%
15	Terrakionrockfighting	fightingDouble KickfightingSacred Sword	3,698	13:08	2.85	5.6	38.6%

Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.

Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Thievul.

Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Thievul's HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.

Hardest movesets to raid against

The same boss is a different fight depending on what it knows. Each row re-simulates the top 6 counters above against one specific moveset; the list is ordered hardest first, and clicking a row filters the whole page to that moveset — the ranking, the estimator and the share link all follow.

Boss moveset	Win % (2)	Overall	Power	Time to win	Faints	Estimator
Random (any moveset)showing	17%	58%	43.3%	11:42	6.0	2.54
Sucker Punch / Play Rough	17%	46%	41.9%	12:05	6.0	2.63
Snarl / Play Rough	17%	46%	42.1%	12:02	6.0	2.62
Quick Attack / Play Rough	17%	47%	42.2%	11:60	6.0	2.61
Sucker Punch / Night Slash	17%	85%	44.4%	11:24	5.9	2.48
Snarl / Night Slash	17%	83%	44.5%	11:24	5.9	2.48
Quick Attack / Night Slash	17%	83%	44.5%	11:24	5.9	2.48

Measured over the top 6 attackers on the list above rather than by re-ranking the whole roster once per moveset — the ordering is what the table is for, and a full re-rank per moveset would cost ten times the page's whole simulation budget. Win % is the share of runs 2 trainers of those attackers finish inside the raid timer. Overall is Pokebattler's published blend on its own absolute scale (higher is easier), not a percentage of the best row the way the ranked table's Overall column is — which is why an easy boss reads well above 100% here.

Simulating each boss moveset…

Thievul weaknesses and resistances

Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.

fighting1.6x bug1.6x fairy1.6x normal1x flying1x poison1x ground1x rock1x steel1x fire1x water1x grass1x electric1x ice1x dragon1x ghost0.63x dark0.63x psychic0.39x

Weak (3)
Neutral (12)
Resists (3)

It resists psychic0.39xghost0.625xdark0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.

What Thievul throws at you

Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.

Fast moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
darkSnarlSTAB	11	+13	1.0s	0.75s
darkSucker PunchSTAB	5	+6	0.5s	0.10s
normalQuick Attack	10	+13	1.0s	0.45s

Charged moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
fairyPlay Rough	90	-50	3.0s	1.40s
darkNight SlashSTAB	45	-33	2.0s	1.10s

Catch CP

What the encounter after the fight can hand you.

IV spread	CP at L20	CP at L25 (weather boosted)
10/10/10floor	1,155	1,444
11/11/11	1,168	1,461
12/12/12	1,181	1,477
13/13/13	1,194	1,493
14/14/14	1,207	1,509
15/15/15hundo	1,221	1,526

Caught CP range 1,155 - 1,221, or 1,444 - 1,526 when the weather boosts it.

A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.

When it is in raids

From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.

Thievul is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.

All settings

Elite: 20,000 HP, 5:00 timer, boss Attack 184 / Defense 176 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.985).

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#	Attacker	Moveset	Overall	Power	Est.Estimator	TimeTime to win	Faints	Win % (2)	CP	DPS	TDO
1	Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Counter / Dynamic Punch+	Counter / Dynamic Punch++26 more movesets	100%	61.1%	1.80	8:18	15.1	100%	6,112	41.8	1318
2	Mega Lucario fightingsteelmega Force Palm / Aura Sphere	Force Palm / Aura Sphere+23 more movesets	83%	51.5%	2.14	9:50	18.0	68%	3,826	35.3	1125
3	Mega Blaziken firefightingmega Counter / Aura Sphere	Counter / Aura Sphere+20 more movesets	81%	50.6%	2.18	10:01	18.1	58%	4,161	34.7	1112
4	Mega Beedrill bugpoisonmega Bug Bite / Fell Stinger+	Bug Bite / Fell Stinger++23 more movesets	77%	48.8%	2.26	10:23	22.6	10%	3,383	33.8	824
5	Keldeo waterfighting Low Kick / Secret Sword	Low Kick / Secret Sword+11 more movesets	70%	44.2%	2.49	11:28	21.3	0%	3,698	30.4	1047
6	Mega Falinks fightingmega Counter / Brick Break+	Counter / Brick Break++7 more movesets	69%	44.1%	2.50	11:29	23.6	0%	3,670	30.5	1062
7	Mega Gallade psychicfightingmega Low Kick / Sacred Sword	Low Kick / Sacred Sword+19 more movesets	67%	43.7%	2.52	11:35	26.7	0%	4,521	30.3	770
8	Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Counter / Focus Blast	Counter / Focus Blast+26 more movesets	69%	43.2%	2.55	11:44	20.4	0%	6,428	29.6	911
9	Shadow Blaziken firefightingshadow Counter / Aura Sphere	Counter / Aura Sphere+20 more movesets	66%	43.2%	2.55	11:44	30.6	0%	2,848	30.2	704
10	Mega Heracross bugfightingmega Fury Cutter / Megahorn	Fury Cutter / Megahorn+17 more movesets	65%	41.2%	2.67	12:18	22.0	0%	4,814	28.2	1057
11	Lucario fightingsteel Force Palm / Aura Sphere	Force Palm / Aura Sphere+23 more movesets	61%	39.6%	2.78	12:47	26.9	0%	2,703	27.4	755
12	Kartana grasssteel Fury Cutter / Sacred Sword	Fury Cutter / Sacred Sword+14 more movesets	60%	38.8%	2.84	13:04	27.1	0%	3,677	26.7	687
13	Shadow Conkeldurr fightingshadow Force Palm / Dynamic Punch	Force Palm / Dynamic Punch+11 more movesets	59%	38.8%	2.84	13:04	31.9	0%	3,337	27.0	755
14	Mega Gardevoir psychicfairymega Charm / Dazzling Gleam	Charm / Dazzling Gleam+19 more movesets	60%	38.7%	2.85	13:06	23.5	0%	4,512	26.5	798
15	Terrakion rockfighting Double Kick / Sacred Sword	Double Kick / Sacred Sword+11 more movesets	60%	38.6%	2.85	13:08	24.1	0%	3,698	26.4	934
16	Shadow Gallade psychicfightingshadow Low Kick / Sacred Sword	Low Kick / Sacred Sword+19 more movesets	57%	38.4%	2.87	13:13	37.1	0%	3,093	26.9	544
17	Blaziken firefighting Counter / Aura Sphere	Counter / Aura Sphere+20 more movesets	58%	37.7%	2.92	13:27	27.0	0%	2,848	25.9	738
18	Shadow Raikou electricshadow Thunder Shock / Aura Sphere	Thunder Shock / Aura Sphere+9 more movesets	57%	37.1%	2.97	13:39	28.3	0%	3,452	25.6	674
19	Mega Latios dragonpsychicmega Dragon Breath / Aura Sphere	Dragon Breath / Aura Sphere+9 more movesets	56%	37.1%	2.97	13:40	31.6	0%	5,007	25.7	600
20	Mega Rayquaza dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent	Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent+11 more movesets	57%	36.7%	3.00	13:48	25.6	0%	5,713	25.2	786
21	Zacian (Crowned Sword) fairysteel Metal Claw / Play Rough	Metal Claw / Play Rough+7 more movesets	60%	36.6%	3.01	13:50	14.3	0%	4,979	24.6	1284
22	Shadow Machamp fightingshadow Counter / Dynamic Punch	Counter / Dynamic Punch+23 more movesets	53%	35.6%	3.09	14:13	35.9	0%	3,056	24.8	636
23	Mega Pinsir bugflyingmega Fury Cutter / X-Scissor	Fury Cutter / X-Scissor+14 more movesets	55%	35.4%	3.11	14:19	26.8	0%	4,182	24.3	704
24	Shadow Regigigas normalshadow Hidden Power / Crush Grip	Hidden Power / Crush Grip+7 more movesets	54%	35.1%	3.14	14:26	26.7	0%	4,346	24.2	706
25	Mega Latias dragonpsychicmega Charm / Aura Sphere	Charm / Aura Sphere+14 more movesets	53%	34.9%	3.16	14:32	29.9	0%	4,801	24.0	643
26	Mega Alakazam psychicmega Counter / Dazzling Gleam	Counter / Dazzling Gleam+17 more movesets	51%	34.8%	3.17	14:35	39.9	0%	4,510	24.4	477
27	Shadow Latios dragonpsychicshadow Dragon Breath / Aura Sphere	Dragon Breath / Aura Sphere+9 more movesets	50%	34.8%	3.17	14:35	45.9	0%	3,812	24.6	420
28	Shadow Mewtwo psychicshadow Counter / Focus Blast	Counter / Focus Blast+23 more movesets	51%	34.7%	3.17	14:36	38.5	0%	4,178	24.3	494
29	Shadow Hisuian Samurott waterdarkshadow Fury Cutter / Sacred Sword	Fury Cutter / Sacred Sword+14 more movesets	51%	34.6%	3.18	14:39	37.0	0%	2,802	24.1	603
30	Shadow Vikavolt bugelectricshadow Bug Bite / X-Scissor	Bug Bite / X-Scissor+15 more movesets	51%	34.5%	3.19	14:40	39.4	0%	3,117	24.2	486

How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).

Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.

Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.

Known weak spots.

Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.

This boss on pokebattler.com. Boss-by-boss accuracy report.

Ranked 30 attackers in 1.5 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.