Talonflame counters

#0663

fire flyingTier 1

Lobby CP

6,100

600

Timer

3:00

Attack

114

Defense

101

Difficulty

0.05

Pokebattler scale

Beating Talonflame should take 1 trainer with level 40 counters. Caught CP 1,193-1,260.

Weak torock2.56xwater1.6xelectric1.6x

Who to bring

IncludeMega Legendary Shadow

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Weather

★ boosts a type this boss is weak to

No boost Sunny or clear Rainy ★Partly cloudy ★Cloudy Windy Snow Fog

Friendship

every trainer in the lobby who is your friend

None Good friend (+3%)Great friend (+5%)Ultra friend (+7%)Best friend (+10%)

Mega in the lobby

a Mega boosts every trainer's attacks: 1.3x of its own type, 1.1x of others

Try a Rock Mega — most top counters attack with Rock

Party Power

Party Play: the charged move after a full meter does 2x

Off 2 trainers 3 trainers 4 trainers

Adventure Effects

only these three change a raid

Behemoth Blade (+10% attack)Behemoth Bash (+10% defense)Dynamic Punch+ (+15% attack vs Mega)

Of the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.

Best counters

Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40

The best Talonflame counters are Mega Diancie, Shadow Rampardos, Rampardos, Shadow Thundurus (Therian), Shadow Rhyperior & Shadow Gigalith.

Suggested party of sixat most one Mega

M. Diancie
S. Rampardos
Rampardos
S. Thundurus (Therian)
S. Rhyperior
S. Gigalith

4 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.

Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %

1Mega DiancieMegaLegendarypartyRock Throw / Rock Slide0.050:08
2Shadow RampardosShadowpartySmack Down / Rock Slide0.050:09
3Mega StarmieMegaPsywave / Liquidation+0.050:09
4Mega Raichu XMegaThunder Shock / Volt Tackle+0.050:09
5Mega AerodactylMegaRock Throw / Rock Slide0.050:09
6RampardospartySmack Down / Rock Slide0.050:09
7Mega Raichu YMegaThunder Shock / Zap Cannon+0.050:10
8Shadow Thundurus (Therian)ShadowLegendarypartyVolt Switch / Wildbolt Storm0.060:10
9Shadow RhyperiorShadowpartySmack Down / Rock Wrecker0.060:10
10Shadow GigalithShadowpartySmack Down / Rock Slide0.060:10

More orders under All settings (Sort by). The top 15 in detail.

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Raid tier — Solo Raid

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Top 15 Talonflame counters in detail

Click a row for damage per move, breakpoints and the energy cycle. Click a column to sort. All 30 ranked attackers, with every column, are under All settings.

Trainers1soloable

#	Attacker	Moveset
1	Mega Diancierockfairyjoint top pick	rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide	4,346	0:08	0.05	5291.3%
2	Shadow Rampardosrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Slide	3,298	0:09	0.05	4921.0%
3	Mega Starmiewaterpsychic	psychicPsywavewaterLiquidation+	3,701	0:09	0.05	4843.3%
4	Mega Raichu Xelectric	electricThunder ShockelectricVolt Tackle+	3,510	0:09	0.05	4800.7%
5	Mega Aerodactylrockflying	rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide	4,118	0:09	0.05	4589.4%
6	Rampardosrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Slide	3,298	0:09	0.05	4589.4%
7	Mega Raichu Yelectric	electricThunder ShockelectricZap Cannon+	3,780	0:10	0.05	4457.1%
8	Shadow Thundurus (Therian)electricflying	electricVolt SwitchelectricWildbolt Storm	3,659	0:10	0.06	4359.9%
9	Shadow Rhyperiorgroundrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Wrecker	3,733	0:10	0.06	4299.7%
10	Shadow Gigalithrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Slide	3,228	0:10	0.06	4152.2%
11	Rhyperiorgroundrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Wrecker	3,733	0:10	0.06	4152.2%
12	Shadow Aerodactylrockflying	rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide	2,783	0:10	0.06	4152.2%
13	Mega Greninjawaterdark	waterBubblewaterSurf+	3,784	0:10	0.06	4152.2%
14	Shadow Golemrockground	rockRock ThrowrockRock Blast	2,949	0:11	0.06	3817.7%
15	Terrakionrockfighting	rockSmack DownrockRock Slide	3,698	0:11	0.06	3791.1%

Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.

Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Talonflame.

Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Talonflame's HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.

Hardest movesets to raid against

The same boss is a different fight depending on what it knows. Each row re-simulates the top 6 counters above against one specific moveset; the list is ordered hardest first, and clicking a row filters the whole page to that moveset — the ranking, the estimator and the share link all follow.

Boss moveset	Win % (1)	Overall	Power	Time to win	Estimator
Random (any moveset)showing	100%	941%	4510.2%	0:10	0.05
Peck / Flame Charge	100%	1060%	4440.1%	0:10	0.05
Fire Spin / Flame Charge	100%	1024%	4440.1%	0:10	0.05
Peck / Brave Bird	100%	975%	4471.7%	0:10	0.05
Peck / Fire Blast	100%	1229%	4471.7%	0:10	0.05
Peck / Hurricane	100%	1050%	4471.7%	0:10	0.05
Fire Spin / Brave Bird	100%	883%	4471.7%	0:10	0.05
Fire Spin / Fire Blast	100%	1156%	4471.7%	0:10	0.05
Fire Spin / Hurricane	100%	971%	4471.7%	0:10	0.05
Peck / Fly	100%	911%	4616.4%	0:09	0.05
Fire Spin / Fly	100%	874%	4616.4%	0:09	0.05
Steel Wing / Flame Charge	100%	869%	4692.3%	0:09	0.05
Steel Wing / Brave Bird	100%	875%	4800.0%	0:09	0.05
Steel Wing / Fire Blast	100%	972%	4800.0%	0:09	0.05
Steel Wing / Hurricane	100%	893%	4800.0%	0:09	0.05
Steel Wing / Fly	100%	765%	4814.7%	0:09	0.05

Measured over the top 6 attackers on the list above rather than by re-ranking the whole roster once per moveset — the ordering is what the table is for, and a full re-rank per moveset would cost ten times the page's whole simulation budget. Win % is the share of runs 1 trainers of those attackers finish inside the raid timer. Overall is Pokebattler's published blend on its own absolute scale (higher is easier), not a percentage of the best row the way the ranked table's Overall column is — which is why an easy boss reads well above 100% here.

Simulating each boss moveset…

Talonflame weaknesses and resistances

Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.

rock2.56x water1.6x electric1.6x normal1x flying1x poison1x ghost1x psychic1x ice1x dragon1x dark1x fighting0.63x ground0.63x steel0.63x fire0.63x fairy0.63x bug0.39x grass0.39x

Double weak (1)
Weak (2)
Neutral (8)
Resists (7)

It resists bug0.39xgrass0.39xfighting0.625xground0.625xsteel0.625xfire0.625xfairy0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.

What Talonflame throws at you

Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.

Fast moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
fireFire SpinSTAB	13	+9	1.0s	0.75s
steelSteel Wing	14	+8	1.0s	0.70s
flyingPeckSTAB	10	+10	1.0s	0.45s

Charged moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
flyingBrave BirdSTAB	130	-100	2.0s	1.00s
flyingFlySTAB	90	-50	2.0s	1.40s
flyingHurricaneSTAB	105	-100	2.5s	1.00s
fireFire BlastSTAB	140	-100	4.0s	2.90s
fireFlame ChargeSTAB	70	-33	4.0s	3.10s

Catch CP

What the encounter after the fight can hand you.

IV spread	CP at L20	CP at L25 (weather boosted)
10/10/10floor	1,193	1,492
11/11/11	1,206	1,508
12/12/12	1,220	1,525
13/13/13	1,233	1,541
14/14/14	1,246	1,558
15/15/15hundo	1,260	1,575

Caught CP range 1,193 - 1,260, or 1,492 - 1,575 when the weather boosts it.

A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.

When it is in raids

From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.

Talonflame is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.

All settings

Tier 1: 600 HP, 3:00 timer, boss Attack 114 / Defense 101 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.5974).

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Attackers allowed

ShadowMega and PrimalLegendary, Mythical, Ultra BeastLegacy and Elite TM moves

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Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank

On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.

#	Attacker	Moveset	Overall	Power	Est.Estimator	TimeTime to win	Win % (1)	CP	DPS	TDO
1	Mega Diancie rockfairymega Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	100%	5291.3%	0.05	0:08	100%	4,346	78.1	642
2	Shadow Rampardos rockshadow Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	89%	4921.0%	0.05	0:09	100%	3,298	79.6	703
3	Mega Starmie waterpsychicmega Psywave / Liquidation+	Psywave / Liquidation++44 more movesets	99%	4843.3%	0.05	0:09	100%	3,701	66.7	600
4	Mega Raichu X electricmega Thunder Shock / Volt Tackle+	Thunder Shock / Volt Tackle++35 more movesets	97%	4800.7%	0.05	0:09	100%	3,510	67.7	615
5	Mega Aerodactyl rockflyingmega Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+23 more movesets	88%	4589.4%	0.05	0:09	100%	4,118	64.4	612
6	Rampardos rock Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	82%	4589.4%	0.05	0:09	100%	3,298	65.4	621
7	Mega Raichu Y electricmega Thunder Shock / Zap Cannon+	Thunder Shock / Zap Cannon++35 more movesets	87%	4457.1%	0.05	0:10	100%	3,780	72.8	712
8	Shadow Thundurus (Therian) electricflyingshadow Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm	Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm+9 more movesets	84%	4359.9%	0.06	0:10	100%	3,659	60.2	602
9	Shadow Rhyperior groundrockshadow Smack Down / Rock Wrecker	Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+15 more movesets	83%	4299.7%	0.06	0:10	100%	3,733	71.4	723
10	Shadow Gigalith rockshadow Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+14 more movesets	75%	4152.2%	0.06	0:10	100%	3,228	59.1	620
11	Rhyperior groundrock Smack Down / Rock Wrecker	Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+15 more movesets	80%	4152.2%	0.06	0:10	100%	3,733	58.8	617
12	Shadow Aerodactyl rockflyingshadow Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+23 more movesets	72%	4152.2%	0.06	0:10	100%	2,783	58.5	614
13	Mega Greninja waterdarkmega Bubble / Surf+	Bubble / Surf++17 more movesets	79%	4152.2%	0.06	0:10	100%	3,784	58.9	618
14	Shadow Golem rockgroundshadow Rock Throw / Rock Blast	Rock Throw / Rock Blast+11 more movesets	68%	3817.7%	0.06	0:11	100%	2,949	56.5	645
15	Terrakion rockfighting Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+11 more movesets	67%	3791.1%	0.06	0:11	100%	3,698	55.1	634
16	Shadow Omastar rockwatershadow Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+11 more movesets	68%	3791.1%	0.06	0:11	100%	2,786	53.7	617
17	Shadow Crustle bugrockshadow Smack Down / Rock Wrecker	Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+7 more movesets	62%	3791.1%	0.06	0:11	100%	2,542	54.4	625
18	Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Confusion / Future Sight+	Confusion / Future Sight++26 more movesets	71%	3783.9%	0.06	0:12	100%	6,428	55.4	637
19	Shadow Alolan Golem rockelectricshadow Rock Throw / Rock Blast	Rock Throw / Rock Blast+8 more movesets	70%	3745.5%	0.06	0:12	100%	2,949	56.3	655
20	Shadow Landorus (Incarnate) groundflyingshadow Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+7 more movesets	62%	3679.1%	0.07	0:12	100%	3,588	57.7	687
21	Mega Tyranitar rockdarkmega Smack Down / Fire Blast	Smack Down / Fire Blast+15 more movesets	71%	3633.1%	0.07	0:12	100%	5,347	51.0	612
22	Shadow Tyrantrum rockdragonshadow Rock Throw / Rock Tomb	Rock Throw / Rock Tomb+17 more movesets	65%	3633.1%	0.07	0:12	100%	3,128	53.3	640
23	Glimmora rockpoison Rock Throw / Power Gem	Rock Throw / Power Gem+7 more movesets	65%	3633.1%	0.07	0:12	100%	3,273	51.6	619
24	Shadow Tyranitar rockdarkshadow Smack Down / Stone Edge	Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets	65%	3518.7%	0.07	0:12	100%	3,834	55.3	691
25	Shadow Hisuian Arcanine firerockshadow Snarl / Rock Slide	Snarl / Rock Slide+11 more movesets	63%	3432.8%	0.07	0:13	100%	3,145	49.8	632
26	Shadow Archeops rockflyingshadow Wing Attack / Ancient Power	Wing Attack / Ancient Power+5 more movesets	59%	3432.8%	0.07	0:13	100%	3,331	56.8	721
27	Archeops rockflying Wing Attack / Ancient Power	Wing Attack / Ancient Power+5 more movesets	57%	3353.6%	0.07	0:13	100%	3,331	46.5	604
28	Mega Ampharos electricdragonmega Charge Beam / Power Gem	Charge Beam / Power Gem+15 more movesets	63%	3353.6%	0.07	0:13	100%	4,245	47.2	613
29	Mega Blastoise watermega Rollout / Hydro Cannon	Rollout / Hydro Cannon+14 more movesets	61%	3353.6%	0.07	0:13	100%	3,941	48.3	628
30	Mega Swampert watergroundmega Water Gun / Hydro Cannon	Water Gun / Hydro Cannon+11 more movesets	60%	3280.4%	0.07	0:13	100%	4,401	47.1	625

How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).

Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.

Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.

Known weak spots.

Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.

This boss on pokebattler.com. Boss-by-boss accuracy report.

Ranked 30 attackers in 0.1 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.