Tornadus (Therian) counters

#0641

flyingTier 1

Lobby CP

8,851

600

Timer

3:00

Attack

151

Defense

121

Difficulty

0.09

Pokebattler scale

Beating Tornadus (Therian) should take 1 trainer with level 40 counters. Caught CP 1,756-1,837.

Weak torock1.6xelectric1.6xice1.6x

Who to bring

IncludeMega Legendary Shadow

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Weather

★ boosts a type this boss is weak to

No boost Sunny or clear Rainy ★Partly cloudy ★Cloudy Windy Snow ★Fog

Friendship

every trainer in the lobby who is your friend

None Good friend (+3%)Great friend (+5%)Ultra friend (+7%)Best friend (+10%)

Mega in the lobby

a Mega boosts every trainer's attacks: 1.3x of its own type, 1.1x of others

Try an Electric Mega — most top counters attack with Electric

Party Power

Party Play: the charged move after a full meter does 2x

Off 2 trainers 3 trainers 4 trainers

Adventure Effects

only these three change a raid

Behemoth Blade (+10% attack)Behemoth Bash (+10% defense)Dynamic Punch+ (+15% attack vs Mega)

Of the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.

Best counters

Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40

The best Tornadus (Therian) counters are Mega Raichu Y, Shadow Rampardos, Shadow Thundurus (Therian), Shadow Electivire, Kyurem (White) & Regieleki.

Suggested party of sixat most one Mega

M. Raichu Y
S. Rampardos
S. Thundurus (Therian)
S. Electivire
Kyurem (White)
Regieleki

4 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.

Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %

1Mega Raichu YMegapartyVolt Switch / Zap Cannon+0.060:10
2Mega DiancieMegaLegendaryRock Throw / Rock Slide0.090:16
3Shadow RampardosShadowpartySmack Down / Rock Slide0.090:16
4Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendaryConfusion / Future Sight+0.090:16
5Mega Raichu XMegaSpark / Volt Tackle+0.090:16
6Shadow Thundurus (Therian)ShadowLegendarypartyVolt Switch / Wildbolt Storm0.090:16
7Shadow ElectivireShadowpartyThunder Shock / Wild Charge0.090:16
8Mega Mewtwo XMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Thunderbolt0.090:16
9Kyurem (White)LegendarypartyIce Fang / Ice Burn0.090:16
10RegielekiLegendarypartyLock-On / Thunder Cage0.090:16

More orders under All settings (Sort by). The top 15 in detail.

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Raid tier — Solo Raid

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Top 15 Tornadus (Therian) counters in detail

Click a row for damage per move, breakpoints and the energy cycle. Click a column to sort. All 30 ranked attackers, with every column, are under All settings.

Trainers1soloable

#	Attacker	Moveset
1	Mega Raichu Yelectricjoint top pick	electricVolt SwitchelectricZap Cannon+	3,780	0:10	0.06	0.0	4232.0%
2	Mega Diancierockfairy	rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide	4,346	0:16	0.09	0.0	2780.3%
3	Shadow Rampardosrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Slide	3,298	0:16	0.09	0.2	2732.8%
4	Mega Mewtwo Ypsychic	psychicConfusionpsychicFuture Sight+	6,428	0:16	0.09	0.0	2724.7%
5	Mega Raichu Xelectric	electricSparkelectricVolt Tackle+	3,510	0:16	0.09	0.0	2724.7%
6	Shadow Thundurus (Therian)electricflying	electricVolt SwitchelectricWildbolt Storm	3,659	0:16	0.09	0.0	2721.3%
7	Shadow Electivireelectric	electricThunder ShockelectricWild Charge	3,079	0:16	0.09	0.0	2699.4%
8	Mega Mewtwo Xpsychicfighting	psychicPsycho CutelectricThunderbolt	6,112	0:16	0.09	0.0	2689.4%
9	Kyurem (White)dragonice	iceIce FangiceIce Burn	4,605	0:16	0.09	0.0	2681.1%
10	Regielekielectric	normalLock-OnelectricThunder Cage	2,803	0:16	0.09	0.0	2655.0%
11	Shadow Zapdoselectricflying	electricThunder ShockelectricThunderbolt	3,527	0:17	0.09	0.0	2638.9%
12	Shadow Raikouelectric	electricThunder ShockelectricWild Charge	3,452	0:17	0.09	0.0	2631.0%
13	Shadow Mamoswineiceground	icePowder SnowiceAvalanche	3,328	0:17	0.09	0.0	2565.0%
14	Shadow Gigalithrock	rockSmack DownrockMeteor Beam	3,228	0:17	0.09	0.0	2564.4%
15	Shadow Tyrantrumrockdragon	rockRock ThrowrockMeteor Beam	3,128	0:17	0.10	0.0	2554.5%

Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.

Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Tornadus (Therian).

Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Tornadus (Therian)'s HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.

Hardest movesets to raid against

The same boss is a different fight depending on what it knows. Each row re-simulates the top 6 counters above against one specific moveset; the list is ordered hardest first, and clicking a row filters the whole page to that moveset — the ranking, the estimator and the share link all follow.

Boss moveset	Win % (1)	Overall	Power	Time to win	Faints	Estimator
Random (any moveset)showing	100%	481%	2858.8%	0:15	0.0	0.09
Astonish / Focus Blast	100%	541%	2768.8%	0:16	0.2	0.09
Astonish / Heat Wave	100%	609%	2841.6%	0:15	0.0	0.09
Astonish / Psychic	100%	490%	2851.6%	0:15	0.0	0.09
Gust / Focus Blast	100%	459%	2856.7%	0:15	0.1	0.09
Astonish / Hurricane	100%	603%	2875.4%	0:15	0.0	0.08
Gust / Psychic	100%	446%	2907.0%	0:15	0.0	0.08
Gust / Heat Wave	100%	512%	2915.5%	0:15	0.0	0.08
Gust / Hurricane	100%	478%	2915.5%	0:15	0.0	0.08

Measured over the top 6 attackers on the list above rather than by re-ranking the whole roster once per moveset — the ordering is what the table is for, and a full re-rank per moveset would cost ten times the page's whole simulation budget. Win % is the share of runs 1 trainers of those attackers finish inside the raid timer. Overall is Pokebattler's published blend on its own absolute scale (higher is easier), not a percentage of the best row the way the ranked table's Overall column is — which is why an easy boss reads well above 100% here.

Simulating each boss moveset…

Tornadus (Therian) weaknesses and resistances

Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.

rock1.6x electric1.6x ice1.6x normal1x flying1x poison1x ghost1x steel1x fire1x water1x psychic1x dragon1x dark1x fairy1x fighting0.63x bug0.63x grass0.63x ground0.39x

Weak (3)
Neutral (11)
Resists (4)

It resists ground0.39xfighting0.625xbug0.625xgrass0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.

What Tornadus (Therian) throws at you

Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.

Fast moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
flyingGustSTAB	25	+20	2.0s	0.90s
ghostAstonish	7	+13	1.0s	0.60s

Charged moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
flyingHurricaneSTAB	105	-100	2.5s	1.00s
fightingFocus Blast	140	-100	3.5s	3.00s
fireHeat Wave	95	-100	3.0s	1.70s
psychicPsychic	95	-50	3.0s	1.50s

Catch CP

What the encounter after the fight can hand you.

IV spread	CP at L20	CP at L25 (weather boosted)
10/10/10floor	1,756	2,196
11/11/11	1,772	2,216
12/12/12	1,788	2,236
13/13/13	1,805	2,256
14/14/14	1,821	2,276
15/15/15hundo	1,837	2,296

Caught CP range 1,756 - 1,837, or 2,196 - 2,296 when the weather boosts it.

A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.

When it is in raids

From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.

Tornadus (Therian) is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.

All settings

Tier 1: 600 HP, 3:00 timer, boss Attack 151 / Defense 121 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.5974).

Raid bossAttacker levelAttacker IVsWeatherFriendshipDodgingTrainers in the lobbyMega in the lobbyParty Play trainersBoss fast moveBoss charged moveSort by

Attackers allowed

ShadowMega and PrimalLegendary, Mythical, Ultra BeastLegacy and Elite TM moves

Share these exact settings

Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank

On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.

#	Attacker	Moveset	Overall	Power	Est.Estimator	TimeTime to win	Faints	Win % (1)	CP	DPS	TDO
1	Mega Raichu Y electricmega Volt Switch / Zap Cannon+	Volt Switch / Zap Cannon++35 more movesets	100%	4232.0%	0.06	0:10	0.0	100%	3,780	59.7	615
2	Mega Diancie rockfairymega Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	59%	2780.3%	0.09	0:16	0.0	100%	4,346	41.1	644
3	Shadow Rampardos rockshadow Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	54%	2732.8%	0.09	0:16	0.2	100%	3,298	41.8	595
4	Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Confusion / Future Sight+	Confusion / Future Sight++26 more movesets	60%	2724.7%	0.09	0:16	0.0	100%	6,428	37.8	604
5	Mega Raichu X electricmega Spark / Volt Tackle+	Spark / Volt Tackle++35 more movesets	57%	2724.7%	0.09	0:16	0.0	100%	3,510	37.9	607
6	Shadow Thundurus (Therian) electricflyingshadow Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm	Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm+9 more movesets	56%	2721.3%	0.09	0:16	0.0	100%	3,659	39.5	633
7	Shadow Electivire electricshadow Thunder Shock / Wild Charge	Thunder Shock / Wild Charge+9 more movesets	55%	2699.4%	0.09	0:16	0.0	100%	3,079	41.7	672
8	Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Thunderbolt	Psycho Cut / Thunderbolt+26 more movesets	57%	2689.4%	0.09	0:16	0.0	100%	6,112	39.8	644
9	Kyurem (White) dragonice Ice Fang / Ice Burn	Ice Fang / Ice Burn+17 more movesets	59%	2681.1%	0.09	0:16	0.0	100%	4,605	44.4	720
10	Regieleki electric Lock-On / Thunder Cage	Lock-On / Thunder Cage+11 more movesets	56%	2655.0%	0.09	0:16	0.0	100%	2,803	46.6	764
11	Shadow Zapdos electricflyingshadow Thunder Shock / Thunderbolt	Thunder Shock / Thunderbolt+11 more movesets	56%	2638.9%	0.09	0:17	0.0	100%	3,527	39.1	645
12	Shadow Raikou electricshadow Thunder Shock / Wild Charge	Thunder Shock / Wild Charge+9 more movesets	56%	2631.0%	0.09	0:17	0.0	100%	3,452	40.1	664
13	Shadow Mamoswine icegroundshadow Powder Snow / Avalanche	Powder Snow / Avalanche+11 more movesets	51%	2565.0%	0.09	0:17	0.0	100%	3,328	36.9	616
14	Shadow Gigalith rockshadow Smack Down / Meteor Beam	Smack Down / Meteor Beam+14 more movesets	54%	2564.4%	0.09	0:17	0.0	100%	3,228	36.1	613
15	Shadow Tyrantrum rockdragonshadow Rock Throw / Meteor Beam	Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets	53%	2554.5%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	3,128	36.0	602
16	Mega Manectric electricmega Charge Beam / Wild Charge	Charge Beam / Wild Charge+14 more movesets	54%	2549.4%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	3,580	37.6	641
17	Shadow Galarian Darmanitan (Standard) iceshadow Ice Fang / Avalanche	Ice Fang / Avalanche+7 more movesets	49%	2541.3%	0.10	0:17	0.1	100%	3,105	40.1	621
18	Xurkitree electric Thunder Shock / Discharge	Thunder Shock / Discharge+7 more movesets	53%	2534.6%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	3,937	40.1	690
19	Shadow Manectric electricshadow Thunder Fang / Wild Charge	Thunder Fang / Wild Charge+14 more movesets	49%	2533.3%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	2,340	37.3	625
20	Shadow Luxray electricshadow Snarl / Wild Charge	Snarl / Wild Charge+14 more movesets	51%	2511.2%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	2,888	35.2	609
21	Zekrom dragonelectric Charge Beam / Wild Charge	Charge Beam / Wild Charge+9 more movesets	56%	2508.3%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	4,038	35.6	617
22	Shadow Magnezone electricsteelshadow Charge Beam / Wild Charge	Charge Beam / Wild Charge+15 more movesets	53%	2508.3%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	3,205	37.5	651
23	Mega Rayquaza dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent	Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent+11 more movesets	55%	2491.1%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	5,713	37.7	659
24	Mega Tyranitar rockdarkmega Smack Down / Stone Edge	Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets	57%	2491.1%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	5,347	35.3	617
25	Kyurem (Black) dragonice Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock	Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock+11 more movesets	53%	2491.1%	0.10	0:17	0.0	100%	4,605	35.0	612
26	Thundurus (Therian) electricflying Volt Switch / Thunderbolt	Volt Switch / Thunderbolt+9 more movesets	53%	2488.3%	0.10	0:18	0.0	100%	3,659	36.5	639
27	Shadow Vikavolt bugelectricshadow Volt Switch / Discharge	Volt Switch / Discharge+15 more movesets	48%	2486.4%	0.10	0:18	0.1	100%	3,117	37.6	636
28	Shadow Thundurus (Incarnate) electricflyingshadow Thunder Shock / Thunder	Thunder Shock / Thunder+7 more movesets	50%	2442.3%	0.10	0:18	0.0	100%	3,345	36.5	651
29	Rampardos rock Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	48%	2426.5%	0.10	0:18	0.2	100%	3,298	34.7	555
30	Shadow Weavile darkiceshadow Snarl / Avalanche	Snarl / Avalanche+11 more movesets	45%	2331.6%	0.10	0:19	0.2	100%	3,005	34.8	574

How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).

Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.

Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.

Known weak spots.

Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.

This boss on pokebattler.com. Boss-by-boss accuracy report.

Ranked 30 attackers in 0.1 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.