Tornadus (Incarnate) counters

#0641

flyingTier 3

Lobby CP

22,557

3,600

Timer

3:00

Attack

205

Defense

130

Difficulty

0.52

Pokebattler scale

Beating Tornadus (Incarnate) should take 1 trainer with level 40 counters. Caught CP 1,828-1,911.

Weak torock1.6xelectric1.6xice1.6x

Who to bring

IncludeMega Legendary Shadow

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Weather

★ boosts a type this boss is weak to

No boost Sunny or clear Rainy ★Partly cloudy ★Cloudy Windy Snow ★Fog

Friendship

every trainer in the lobby who is your friend

None Good friend (+3%)Great friend (+5%)Ultra friend (+7%)Best friend (+10%)

Mega in the lobby

a Mega boosts every trainer's attacks: 1.3x of its own type, 1.1x of others

Try an Electric Mega — most top counters attack with Electric

Party Power

Party Play: the charged move after a full meter does 2x

Off 2 trainers 3 trainers 4 trainers

Adventure Effects

only these three change a raid

Behemoth Blade (+10% attack)Behemoth Bash (+10% defense)Dynamic Punch+ (+15% attack vs Mega)

Of the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.

Best counters

Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40

The best Tornadus (Incarnate) counters are Mega Raichu Y, Kyurem (White), Shadow Thundurus (Therian), Shadow Raikou, Kyurem (Black) & Xurkitree.

Suggested party of sixat most one Mega

M. Raichu Y
Kyurem (White)
S. Thundurus (Therian)
S. Raikou
Kyurem (Black)
Xurkitree

3 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.

Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %

1Mega Raichu YMegapartyThunder Shock / Zap Cannon+0.461:21
2Mega Raichu XMegaThunder Shock / Volt Tackle+0.501:28
3Kyurem (White)LegendarypartyIce Fang / Ice Burn0.521:31
4Shadow Thundurus (Therian)ShadowLegendarypartyVolt Switch / Wildbolt Storm0.521:32
5Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Future Sight+0.521:32
6Shadow RaikouShadowLegendarypartyThunder Shock / Wild Charge0.581:42
7Mega Mewtwo XMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Thunderbolt0.581:42
8Kyurem (Black)LegendarypartyDragon Tail / Freeze Shock0.581:42
9XurkitreeLegendarypartyThunder Shock / Discharge0.591:43
10ZeraoraLegendarySpark / Plasma Fists0.591:44

More orders under All settings (Sort by). The top 15 in detail.

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Top 15 Tornadus (Incarnate) counters in detail

Click a row for damage per move, breakpoints and the energy cycle. Click a column to sort. All 30 ranked attackers, with every column, are under All settings.

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#	Attacker	Moveset
1	Mega Raichu Yelectricjoint top pick	electricThunder ShockelectricZap Cannon+	3,780	1:21	0.46	3.6	288.4%
2	Mega Raichu Xelectric	electricThunder ShockelectricVolt Tackle+	3,510	1:28	0.50	2.9	265.9%
3	Kyurem (White)dragonice	iceIce FangiceIce Burn	4,605	1:31	0.52	2.8	256.5%
4	Shadow Thundurus (Therian)electricflying	electricVolt SwitchelectricWildbolt Storm	3,659	1:32	0.52	3.8	256.3%
5	Mega Mewtwo Ypsychic	psychicPsycho CutpsychicFuture Sight+	6,428	1:32	0.52	2.8	255.2%
6	Shadow Raikouelectric	electricThunder ShockelectricWild Charge	3,452	1:42	0.58	3.8	229.7%
7	Mega Mewtwo Xpsychicfighting	psychicPsycho CutelectricThunderbolt	6,112	1:42	0.58	3.4	229.4%
8	Kyurem (Black)dragonice	dragonDragon TailiceFreeze Shock	4,605	1:42	0.58	3.0	229.4%
9	Xurkitreeelectric	electricThunder ShockelectricDischarge	3,937	1:43	0.59	4.3	227.0%
10	Zeraoraelectric	electricSparkelectricPlasma Fists	3,419	1:44	0.59	3.6	225.3%
11	Mega Diancierockfairy	rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide	4,346	1:44	0.59	3.6	224.6%
12	Thundurus (Therian)electricflying	electricVolt SwitchelectricWildbolt Storm	3,659	1:46	0.60	3.6	222.4%
13	Mega Manectricelectric	electricThunder FangelectricWild Charge	3,580	1:46	0.60	4.1	222.1%
14	Shadow Electivireelectric	electricThunder ShockelectricWild Charge	3,079	1:47	0.61	5.2	218.3%
15	Shadow Zapdoselectricflying	electricThunder ShockelectricThunderbolt	3,527	1:48	0.61	3.5	218.1%

Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.

Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Tornadus (Incarnate).

Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Tornadus (Incarnate)'s HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.

Hardest movesets to raid against

The same boss is a different fight depending on what it knows. Each row re-simulates the top 6 counters above against one specific moveset; the list is ordered hardest first, and clicking a row filters the whole page to that moveset — the ranking, the estimator and the share link all follow.

Boss moveset	Win % (1)	Overall	Power	Time to win	Faints	Estimator
Random (any moveset)showing	100%	123%	245.2%	1:36	3.6	0.55
Bite / Hyper Beam	100%	108%	240.2%	1:38	4.1	0.56
Air Slash / Hyper Beam	100%	111%	241.9%	1:37	4.0	0.55
Bite / Dark Pulse	100%	127%	246.6%	1:35	3.4	0.54
Air Slash / Dark Pulse	100%	129%	247.1%	1:35	3.3	0.54
Bite / Hurricane	100%	138%	247.4%	1:35	3.0	0.54
Air Slash / Hurricane	100%	130%	247.5%	1:35	3.3	0.54
Bite / Grass Knot	100%	133%	248.4%	1:34	3.5	0.54
Air Slash / Grass Knot	100%	132%	249.4%	1:34	3.4	0.54

Measured over the top 6 attackers on the list above rather than by re-ranking the whole roster once per moveset — the ordering is what the table is for, and a full re-rank per moveset would cost ten times the page's whole simulation budget. Win % is the share of runs 1 trainers of those attackers finish inside the raid timer. Overall is Pokebattler's published blend on its own absolute scale (higher is easier), not a percentage of the best row the way the ranked table's Overall column is — which is why an easy boss reads well above 100% here.

Simulating each boss moveset…

Tornadus (Incarnate) weaknesses and resistances

Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.

rock1.6x electric1.6x ice1.6x normal1x flying1x poison1x ghost1x steel1x fire1x water1x psychic1x dragon1x dark1x fairy1x fighting0.63x bug0.63x grass0.63x ground0.39x

Weak (3)
Neutral (11)
Resists (4)

It resists ground0.39xfighting0.625xbug0.625xgrass0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.

What Tornadus (Incarnate) throws at you

Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.

Fast moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
flyingAir SlashSTAB	12	+8	1.0s	0.80s
darkBite	6	+4	0.5s	0.30s

Charged moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
flyingHurricaneSTAB	105	-100	2.5s	1.00s
normalHyper Beam	150	-100	4.0s	3.50s
grassGrass Knot	90	-50	2.5s	1.60s
darkDark Pulse	80	-50	3.0s	1.40s

Catch CP

What the encounter after the fight can hand you.

IV spread	CP at L20	CP at L25 (weather boosted)
10/10/10floor	1,828	2,285
11/11/11	1,844	2,306
12/12/12	1,861	2,326
13/13/13	1,878	2,347
14/14/14	1,894	2,368
15/15/15hundo	1,911	2,389

Caught CP range 1,828 - 1,911, or 2,285 - 2,389 when the weather boosts it.

A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.

When it is in raids

From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.

Tornadus (Incarnate) is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.

All settings

Tier 3: 3,600 HP, 3:00 timer, boss Attack 205 / Defense 130 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.73).

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Attackers allowed

ShadowMega and PrimalLegendary, Mythical, Ultra BeastLegacy and Elite TM moves

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Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank

On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.

#	Attacker	Moveset	Overall	Power	Est.Estimator	TimeTime to win	Faints	Win % (1)	CP	DPS	TDO
1	Mega Raichu Y electricmega Thunder Shock / Zap Cannon+	Thunder Shock / Zap Cannon++35 more movesets	100%	288.4%	0.46	1:21	3.3	100%	3,780	47.2	873
2	Mega Raichu X electricmega Thunder Shock / Volt Tackle+	Thunder Shock / Volt Tackle++35 more movesets	95%	265.9%	0.50	1:28	2.7	100%	3,510	43.7	1014
3	Kyurem (White) dragonice Ice Fang / Ice Burn	Ice Fang / Ice Burn+17 more movesets	92%	256.5%	0.52	1:31	2.5	100%	4,605	40.3	1059
4	Shadow Thundurus (Therian) electricflyingshadow Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm	Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm+9 more movesets	88%	256.3%	0.52	1:32	3.4	100%	3,659	41.0	803
5	Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Psycho Cut / Future Sight+	Psycho Cut / Future Sight++26 more movesets	91%	255.2%	0.52	1:32	2.6	100%	6,428	40.9	1003
6	Shadow Raikou electricshadow Thunder Shock / Wild Charge	Thunder Shock / Wild Charge+9 more movesets	79%	229.7%	0.58	1:42	3.4	100%	3,452	35.9	787
7	Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Thunderbolt	Psycho Cut / Thunderbolt+26 more movesets	80%	229.4%	0.58	1:42	3.1	100%	6,112	35.8	865
8	Kyurem (Black) dragonice Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock	Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock+11 more movesets	82%	229.4%	0.58	1:42	2.7	100%	4,605	35.9	961
9	Xurkitree electric Thunder Shock / Discharge	Thunder Shock / Discharge+7 more movesets	76%	227.0%	0.59	1:43	3.9	100%	3,937	35.3	698
10	Zeraora electric Spark / Plasma Fists	Spark / Plasma Fists+9 more movesets	78%	225.3%	0.59	1:44	3.3	100%	3,419	35.0	807
11	Mega Diancie rockfairymega Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	76%	224.6%	0.59	1:44	3.6	100%	4,346	35.6	843
12	Thundurus (Therian) electricflying Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm	Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm+9 more movesets	77%	222.4%	0.60	1:46	3.3	100%	3,659	34.9	817
13	Mega Manectric electricmega Thunder Fang / Wild Charge	Thunder Fang / Wild Charge+14 more movesets	75%	222.1%	0.60	1:46	3.7	100%	3,580	34.9	746
14	Shadow Electivire electricshadow Thunder Shock / Wild Charge	Thunder Shock / Wild Charge+9 more movesets	71%	218.3%	0.61	1:47	4.9	100%	3,079	35.1	588
15	Shadow Zapdos electricflyingshadow Thunder Shock / Thunderbolt	Thunder Shock / Thunderbolt+11 more movesets	75%	218.1%	0.61	1:48	3.2	100%	3,527	34.0	829
16	Shadow Magnezone electricsteelshadow Volt Switch / Wild Charge	Volt Switch / Wild Charge+15 more movesets	76%	217.8%	0.61	1:48	3.1	100%	3,205	33.7	846
17	Regieleki electric Thunder Shock / Thunder Cage	Thunder Shock / Thunder Cage+11 more movesets	72%	217.6%	0.61	1:48	4.5	100%	2,803	35.2	648
18	Mega Rayquaza dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent	Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent+11 more movesets	77%	217.2%	0.62	1:48	2.6	100%	5,713	33.9	1017
19	Shadow Rhyperior groundrockshadow Smack Down / Rock Wrecker	Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+15 more movesets	74%	216.6%	0.62	1:48	3.5	100%	3,733	34.5	851
20	Shadow Tyrantrum rockdragonshadow Rock Throw / Meteor Beam	Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets	72%	212.8%	0.63	1:50	3.6	100%	3,128	33.3	763
21	Shadow Rampardos rockshadow Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	66%	212.0%	0.63	1:51	6.6	100%	3,298	35.2	539
22	Zekrom dragonelectric Charge Beam / Fusion Bolt	Charge Beam / Fusion Bolt+9 more movesets	75%	210.5%	0.63	1:52	2.7	100%	4,038	32.9	943
23	Mega Tyranitar rockdarkmega Smack Down / Stone Edge	Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets	76%	207.3%	0.64	1:53	2.2	100%	5,347	32.4	1247
24	Mega Aerodactyl rockflyingmega Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+23 more movesets	71%	207.1%	0.65	1:53	3.2	100%	4,118	32.0	831
25	Shadow Galarian Darmanitan (Standard) iceshadow Ice Fang / Avalanche	Ice Fang / Avalanche+7 more movesets	62%	199.8%	0.67	1:57	6.4	100%	3,105	33.1	480
26	Zamazenta (Crowned Shield) fightingsteel Ice Fang / Behemoth Bash	Ice Fang / Behemoth Bash+7 more movesets	73%	198.8%	0.67	1:58	2.1	100%	4,172	30.9	1142
27	Shadow Alolan Golem rockelectricshadow Rock Throw / Wild Charge	Rock Throw / Wild Charge+8 more movesets	64%	194.7%	0.69	2:01	4.3	100%	2,949	30.8	719
28	Rampardos rock Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	62%	194.5%	0.69	2:01	5.4	100%	3,298	31.0	554
29	Shadow Luxray electricshadow Spark / Wild Charge	Spark / Wild Charge+14 more movesets	62%	194.4%	0.69	2:01	5.3	100%	2,888	31.5	544
30	Glimmora rockpoison Rock Throw / Meteor Beam	Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+7 more movesets	66%	194.4%	0.69	2:01	3.6	100%	3,273	30.4	767

How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).

Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.

Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.

Known weak spots.

Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.

This boss on pokebattler.com. Boss-by-boss accuracy report.

Ranked 30 attackers in 0.3 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.