A Shadow raid boss hits harder than its normal form (Shadow Frenzy), and the Pokemon you catch afterwards is a Shadow. Purified Gems weaken it mid-fight; the simulation does not use them.
Beating Shadow Thundurus (Incarnate) should take 2 trainers with level 40 counters. Caught CP 1,762-1,911.
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Best counters
Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40The best Shadow Thundurus (Incarnate) counters are Kyurem (White), Mega Mewtwo Y, Kyurem (Black), Shadow Rhyperior, Shadow Tyrantrum & Shadow Mamoswine.
Kyurem (White)
M. Mewtwo Y
Kyurem (Black)
S. Rhyperior
S. Tyrantrum
S. Mamoswine
2 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.
Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %
- 1Kyurem (White)LegendarypartyIce Fang / Ice Burn1.043:03
- 2Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendarypartyPsycho Cut / Future Sight+1.073:07
- 3Kyurem (Black)LegendarypartyDragon Tail / Freeze Shock1.123:17
- 4
Mega DiancieMegaLegendaryRock Throw / Rock Slide1.203:30 - 5Shadow RhyperiorShadowpartySmack Down / Rock Wrecker1.233:35
- 6
Mega Mewtwo XMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Ice Beam1.243:38 - 7Shadow TyrantrumShadowpartyRock Throw / Meteor Beam1.243:38
- 8Shadow MamoswineShadowpartyPowder Snow / Avalanche1.243:38
- 9
Shadow RampardosShadowSmack Down / Rock Slide1.273:43 - 10
Mega TyranitarMegaSmack Down / Stone Edge1.303:48
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Top 15 Shadow Thundurus (Incarnate) counters in detail
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| # | Attacker | Moveset | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Kyurem (White)dragonicejoint top pick | iceIce FangiceIce Burn | 4,605 | 3:03 | 1.04 | 4.8 | 128.6% | |
| 2 | Mega Mewtwo Ypsychic | psychicPsycho CutpsychicFuture Sight+ | 6,428 | 3:07 | 1.07 | 5.0 | 125.3% | |
| 3 | Kyurem (Black)dragonice | dragonDragon TailiceFreeze Shock | 4,605 | 3:17 | 1.12 | 4.8 | 119.0% | |
| 4 | Mega Diancierockfairy | rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide | 4,346 | 3:30 | 1.20 | 5.7 | 111.8% | |
| 5 | Shadow Rhyperiorgroundrock | rockSmack DownrockRock Wrecker | 3,733 | 3:35 | 1.23 | 4.5 | 109.1% | |
| 6 | Mega Mewtwo Xpsychicfighting | psychicPsycho CuticeIce Beam | 6,112 | 3:38 | 1.24 | 4.8 | 107.6% | |
| 7 | Shadow Tyrantrumrockdragon | rockRock ThrowrockMeteor Beam | 3,128 | 3:38 | 1.24 | 5.9 | 107.5% | |
| 8 | Shadow Mamoswineiceground | icePowder SnowiceAvalanche | 3,328 | 3:38 | 1.24 | 5.0 | 107.5% | |
| 9 | Shadow Rampardosrock | rockSmack DownrockRock Slide | 3,298 | 3:43 | 1.27 | 6.0 | 105.2% | |
| 10 | Mega Tyranitarrockdark | rockSmack DownrockStone Edge | 5,347 | 3:48 | 1.30 | 4.3 | 103.0% | |
| 11 |  Shadow Gigalithrock | normalLock-OnrockMeteor Beam | 3,228 | 3:54 | 1.33 | 6.0 | 100.5% | |
| 12 |  Shadow Regigigasnormal | normalHidden PowernormalCrush Grip | 4,346 | 3:55 | 1.34 | 5.9 | 99.8% | |
| 13 |  Eternatuspoisondragon | poisonPoison JabdragonDynamax Cannon | 4,429 | 3:59 | 1.36 | 3.6 | 98.1% | |
| 14 |  Shadow Tyranitarrockdark | rockSmack DownrockStone Edge | 3,834 | 4:00 | 1.36 | 5.5 | 98.0% | |
| 15 |  Mega Delphoxfirepsychic | fireFire SpinfireMystical Fire+ | 4,783 | 4:00 | 1.36 | 5.4 | 97.9% |
Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.
Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Shadow Thundurus (Incarnate).
Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Shadow Thundurus (Incarnate)'s HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.
Simulating each boss moveset…
Thundurus (Incarnate) weaknesses and resistances
Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.
- Weak (2)
- Neutral (10)
- Resists (6)
It resists fighting0.625xflying0.625xground0.625xbug0.625xsteel0.625xgrass0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.
What Thundurus (Incarnate) throws at you
Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.
Fast moves
| Move | Power | Energy | Duration | Hits at |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| electricThunder ShockSTAB | 4 | +7 | 0.5s | 0.20s |
| ghostAstonish | 7 | +13 | 1.0s | 0.60s |
Charged moves
| Move | Power | Energy | Duration | Hits at |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| electricThunderSTAB | 100 | -100 | 2.5s | 1.30s |
| electricThunder PunchSTAB | 50 | -33 | 2.0s | 1.90s |
| fightingBrick Break | 40 | -33 | 1.5s | 0.70s |
| darkCrunch | 65 | -33 | 3.0s | 1.10s |
Catch CP
What the encounter after the fight can hand you.
| IV spread | CP at L20 | CP at L25 (weather boosted) |
|---|---|---|
| 6/6/6floor | 1,762 | 2,203 |
| 7/7/7 | 1,779 | 2,224 |
| 8/8/8 | 1,795 | 2,244 |
| 9/9/9 | 1,811 | 2,264 |
| 10/10/10 | 1,828 | 2,285 |
| 11/11/11 | 1,844 | 2,306 |
| 12/12/12 | 1,861 | 2,326 |
| 13/13/13 | 1,878 | 2,347 |
| 14/14/14 | 1,894 | 2,368 |
| 15/15/15hundo | 1,911 | 2,389 |
Caught CP range 1,762 - 1,911, or 2,203 - 2,389 when the weather boosts it.
A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 6/6/6 — a Shadow raid's floor is 6, not the usual 10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.
LeekDuck publishes 1,762 - 1,911 normal and 2,203 - 2,389 boosted for this boss — both match the table above exactly, computed from base stats rather than copied from it.
Shadow raid floor. A Shadow Raid encounter rolls a minimum of 6/6/6, so this band starts at 1,762, not at the 1,828 a 10/10/10 catch would give. pokebattler.com's own page for a Shadow boss prints that 10/10/10 value as its floor — it is applying the standard-raid rule — so expect its range to start 66 CP higher than this one. LeekDuck's published band agrees with the table above.
When it is in raids
From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.
- in raids nowShadow Thundurus (Incarnate)Shadow Tier 5Shadowshiny availableWed 9 Sept, 06:00 – Tue 6 Oct, 22:00 · ends in 1 day
All settings
Shadow Tier 3: 4,000 HP, 3:00 timer, boss Attack 213 / Defense 136 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.76).
Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank
On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.
| # | Attacker | Moveset | Overall | Power | Est.Estimator | TimeTime to win | Faints | Win % (2) | CP | DPS | TDO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Kyurem (White) dragonice Ice Fang / Ice Burn | Ice Fang / Ice Burn+17 more movesets | 100% | 128.6% | 1.04 | 3:03 | 4.8 | 100% | 4,605 | 22.5 | 701 |
| 2 | Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Psycho Cut / Future Sight+ | Psycho Cut / Future Sight++26 more movesets | 96% | 125.3% | 1.07 | 3:07 | 5.4 | 100% | 6,428 | 22.2 | 682 |
| 3 | Kyurem (Black) dragonice Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock | Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock+11 more movesets | 92% | 119.0% | 1.12 | 3:17 | 5.2 | 100% | 4,605 | 20.9 | 660 |
| 4 | Mega Diancie rockfairymega Rock Throw / Rock Slide | Rock Throw / Rock Slide+5 more movesets | 81% | 111.8% | 1.20 | 3:30 | 7.2 | 100% | 4,346 | 19.9 | 494 |
| 5 | Shadow Rhyperior groundrockshadow Smack Down / Rock Wrecker | Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+15 more movesets | 83% | 109.1% | 1.23 | 3:35 | 5.5 | 100% | 3,733 | 19.1 | 678 |
| 6 | Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Ice Beam | Psycho Cut / Ice Beam+26 more movesets | 81% | 107.6% | 1.24 | 3:38 | 5.7 | 100% | 6,112 | 19.1 | 630 |
| 7 | Shadow Tyrantrum rockdragonshadow Rock Throw / Meteor Beam | Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets | 77% | 107.5% | 1.24 | 3:38 | 8.1 | 100% | 3,128 | 19.2 | 449 |
| 8 | Shadow Mamoswine icegroundshadow Powder Snow / Avalanche | Powder Snow / Avalanche+11 more movesets | 79% | 107.5% | 1.24 | 3:38 | 7.1 | 100% | 3,328 | 19.0 | 534 |
| 9 | Shadow Rampardos rockshadow Smack Down / Rock Slide | Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets | 69% | 105.2% | 1.27 | 3:43 | 14.2 | 100% | 3,298 | 19.6 | 265 |
| 10 | Mega Tyranitar rockdarkmega Smack Down / Stone Edge | Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets | 78% | 103.0% | 1.30 | 3:48 | 5.6 | 100% | 5,347 | 18.0 | 668 |
| 11 | Shadow Gigalith rockshadow Lock-On / Meteor Beam | Lock-On / Meteor Beam+14 more movesets | 70% | 100.5% | 1.33 | 3:54 | 9.6 | 100% | 3,228 | 18.2 | 382 |
| 12 | Shadow Regigigas normalshadow Hidden Power / Crush Grip | Hidden Power / Crush Grip+7 more movesets | 72% | 99.8% | 1.34 | 3:55 | 7.9 | 100% | 4,346 | 17.9 | 448 |
| 13 | Eternatus poisondragon Poison Jab / Dynamax Cannon | Poison Jab / Dynamax Cannon+7 more movesets | 76% | 98.1% | 1.36 | 3:59 | 4.6 | 100% | 4,429 | 17.1 | 733 |
| 14 | Shadow Tyranitar rockdarkshadow Smack Down / Stone Edge | Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets | 69% | 98.0% | 1.36 | 3:60 | 9.0 | 100% | 3,834 | 17.5 | 438 |
| 15 | Mega Delphox firepsychicmega Fire Spin / Mystical Fire+ | Fire Spin / Mystical Fire++23 more movesets | 70% | 97.9% | 1.36 | 3:60 | 8.2 | 100% | 4,783 | 17.4 | 470 |
| 16 | Shadow Weavile darkiceshadow Ice Shard / Triple Axel | Ice Shard / Triple Axel+11 more movesets | 63% | 95.0% | 1.41 | 4:07 | 12.7 | 100% | 3,005 | 17.3 | 310 |
| 17 | Mega Aerodactyl rockflyingmega Rock Throw / Rock Slide | Rock Throw / Rock Slide+23 more movesets | 65% | 94.9% | 1.41 | 4:07 | 10.2 | 100% | 4,118 | 17.1 | 381 |
| 18 | Shadow Galarian Darmanitan (Standard) iceshadow Ice Fang / Avalanche | Ice Fang / Avalanche+7 more movesets | 61% | 94.6% | 1.41 | 4:08 | 15.2 | 100% | 3,105 | 17.7 | 248 |
| 19 | Primal Kyogre watermega Waterfall / Avalanche | Waterfall / Avalanche+5 more movesets | 69% | 94.4% | 1.42 | 4:09 | 7.1 | 100% | 5,902 | 16.6 | 507 |
| 20 | Shadow Mewtwo psychicshadow Psycho Cut / Ice Beam | Psycho Cut / Ice Beam+23 more movesets | 64% | 94.0% | 1.42 | 4:10 | 10.7 | 100% | 4,178 | 16.9 | 375 |
| 21 | Mega Rayquaza dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Breaking Swipe | Dragon Tail / Breaking Swipe+11 more movesets | 68% | 93.2% | 1.43 | 4:12 | 7.2 | 100% | 5,713 | 16.3 | 522 |
| 22 | Rampardos rock Smack Down / Rock Slide | Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets | 61% | 93.0% | 1.44 | 4:12 | 13.7 | 100% | 3,298 | 17.0 | 271 |
| 23 | Glimmora rockpoison Rock Throw / Meteor Beam | Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+7 more movesets | 65% | 92.7% | 1.44 | 4:13 | 9.4 | 100% | 3,273 | 16.5 | 386 |
| 24 | Rhyperior groundrock Smack Down / Rock Wrecker | Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+15 more movesets | 69% | 92.1% | 1.45 | 4:15 | 5.8 | 100% | 3,733 | 16.1 | 648 |
| 25 | Baxcalibur dragonice Ice Fang / Avalanche | Ice Fang / Avalanche+11 more movesets | 65% | 90.9% | 1.47 | 4:18 | 7.8 | 100% | 3,550 | 16.1 | 462 |
| 26 | Galarian Darmanitan (Standard) ice Ice Fang / Avalanche | Ice Fang / Avalanche+7 more movesets | 61% | 90.5% | 1.48 | 4:19 | 12.1 | 100% | 3,105 | 16.4 | 303 |
| 27 | Shadow Landorus (Incarnate) groundflyingshadow Rock Throw / Rock Slide | Rock Throw / Rock Slide+7 more movesets | 65% | 90.3% | 1.48 | 4:20 | 8.1 | 100% | 3,588 | 15.9 | 448 |
| 28 | Tyrantrum rockdragon Rock Throw / Meteor Beam | Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets | 64% | 90.2% | 1.48 | 4:20 | 8.4 | 100% | 3,128 | 16.0 | 435 |
| 29 | Mamoswine iceground Powder Snow / Avalanche | Powder Snow / Avalanche+11 more movesets | 65% | 89.5% | 1.49 | 4:22 | 7.6 | 100% | 3,328 | 15.8 | 517 |
| 30 | Mega Dragonite dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Outrage+ | Dragon Tail / Outrage++26 more movesets | 67% | 89.3% | 1.50 | 4:23 | 6.2 | 100% | 4,823 | 15.8 | 582 |
How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).
Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.
Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.
- Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
- Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
- Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
- Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.
This boss on pokebattler.com (its Shadow boss page; the ordinary boss's page is a different, easier fight). Boss-by-boss accuracy report.
Ranked 30 attackers in 0.5 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.