Talonflame counters

#0663

fire flyingTier 3

Lobby CP

14,942

3,600

Timer

3:00

Attack

139

Defense

124

Difficulty

0.36

Pokebattler scale

Beating Talonflame should take 1 trainer with level 40 counters. Caught CP 1,193-1,260.

Weak torock2.56xwater1.6xelectric1.6x

Who to bring

IncludeMega Legendary Shadow

Improve your raidweather · friendship · Mega in the lobby · Party Power · Adventure EffectsShow ▾

Weather

★ boosts a type this boss is weak to

No boost Sunny or clear Rainy ★Partly cloudy ★Cloudy Windy Snow Fog

Friendship

every trainer in the lobby who is your friend

None Good friend (+3%)Great friend (+5%)Ultra friend (+7%)Best friend (+10%)

Mega in the lobby

a Mega boosts every trainer's attacks: 1.3x of its own type, 1.1x of others

Try a Rock Mega — most top counters attack with Rock

Party Power

Party Play: the charged move after a full meter does 2x

Off 2 trainers 3 trainers 4 trainers

Adventure Effects

only these three change a raid

Behemoth Blade (+10% attack)Behemoth Bash (+10% defense)Dynamic Punch+ (+15% attack vs Mega)

Of the game's eleven Adventure Effects only Behemoth Blade (Crowned Sword Zacian), Behemoth Bash (Crowned Shield Zamazenta) and Dynamic Punch+ (Mega Mewtwo X) change a raid; Roar of Time, Spacial Rend, Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Future Sight+ and Dynamax Cannon act outside raids. Dynamic Punch+ only counts against a Mega boss, so it changes nothing here. Sources: the full list, Behemoth Blade / Bash, Dynamic Punch+.

Best counters

Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40

The best Talonflame counters are Shadow Rampardos, Mega Diancie, Shadow Rhyperior, Shadow Tyrantrum, Shadow Gigalith & Shadow Tyranitar.

Suggested party of sixat most one Mega

S. Rampardos
M. Diancie
S. Rhyperior
S. Tyrantrum
S. Gigalith
S. Tyranitar

2 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.

Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %

1Shadow RampardosShadowpartySmack Down / Rock Slide0.330:58
2Mega DiancieMegaLegendarypartyRock Throw / Rock Slide0.341:00
3Shadow RhyperiorShadowpartySmack Down / Rock Wrecker0.361:03
4Shadow TyrantrumShadowpartyRock Throw / Meteor Beam0.371:05
5Mega TyranitarMegaSmack Down / Stone Edge0.381:06
6Shadow GigalithShadowpartySmack Down / Meteor Beam0.381:06
7Mega AerodactylMegaRock Throw / Rock Slide0.381:07
8Shadow TyranitarShadowpartySmack Down / Stone Edge0.391:08
9RampardosSmack Down / Rock Slide0.391:08
10GlimmoraRock Throw / Meteor Beam0.411:11

More orders under All settings (Sort by). The top 15 in detail.

Build and order a party of six →Plan your raid lobby →

Best from your Pokebox

Pokebox

The Pokebox saved in this browser · each at its own level, IVs and moves.

Search bosses

Type a name, then Enter or click a result

Raid tier — Group Raid

Super Mega Legendary Super Mega Primal Mega Legendary Mega Elite Shadow Tier 5 Tier 5 Shadow Tier 3 Tier 3 Shadow Tier 1 Tier 1 Tier 4 Tier 2

Related countersShadow Talonflame

Raid alerts…

Top 15 Talonflame counters in detail

Click a row for damage per move, breakpoints and the energy cycle. Click a column to sort. All 30 ranked attackers, with every column, are under All settings.

Trainers1soloable

#	Attacker	Moveset
1	Shadow Rampardosrockjoint top pick	rockSmack DownrockRock Slide	3,298	0:58	0.33	2.1	406.9%
2	Mega Diancierockfairy	rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide	4,346	1:00	0.34	1.4	392.8%
3	Shadow Rhyperiorgroundrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Wrecker	3,733	1:03	0.36	1.0	371.8%
4	Shadow Tyrantrumrockdragon	rockRock ThrowrockMeteor Beam	3,128	1:05	0.37	1.3	362.9%
5	Mega Tyranitarrockdark	rockSmack DownrockStone Edge	5,347	1:06	0.38	0.6	354.1%
6	Shadow Gigalithrock	rockSmack DownrockMeteor Beam	3,228	1:06	0.38	1.6	354.1%
7	Mega Aerodactylrockflying	rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide	4,118	1:07	0.38	1.2	348.7%
8	Shadow Tyranitarrockdark	rockSmack DownrockStone Edge	3,834	1:08	0.39	1.3	344.8%
9	Rampardosrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Slide	3,298	1:08	0.39	2.0	343.3%
10	Glimmorarockpoison	rockRock ThrowrockMeteor Beam	3,273	1:11	0.41	1.5	329.7%
11	Mega Raichu Yelectric	electricVolt SwitchelectricZap Cannon+	3,780	1:12	0.41	2.0	325.3%
12	Shadow Aerodactylrockflying	rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide	2,783	1:14	0.42	2.3	318.0%
13	Rhyperiorgroundrock	rockSmack DownrockRock Wrecker	3,733	1:15	0.42	1.0	314.9%
14	Shadow Aurorusrockice	rockRock ThrowrockMeteor Beam	2,802	1:15	0.43	1.9	313.9%
15	Mega Greninjawaterdark	waterWater ShurikenwaterSurf+	3,784	1:15	0.43	2.1	313.3%

Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.

Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Talonflame.

Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Talonflame's HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.

Hardest movesets to raid against

The same boss is a different fight depending on what it knows. Each row re-simulates the top 6 counters above against one specific moveset; the list is ordered hardest first, and clicking a row filters the whole page to that moveset — the ranking, the estimator and the share link all follow.

Boss moveset	Win % (1)	Overall	Power	Time to win	Faints	Estimator
Random (any moveset)showing	100%	240%	370.7%	1:03	1.4	0.36
Peck / Fire Blast	100%	250%	369.0%	1:04	1.4	0.36
Fire Spin / Hurricane	100%	257%	369.8%	1:03	1.2	0.36
Peck / Brave Bird	100%	228%	370.1%	1:03	1.6	0.36
Fire Spin / Brave Bird	100%	219%	370.4%	1:03	1.7	0.36
Steel Wing / Fly	100%	204%	370.4%	1:03	1.8	0.36
Steel Wing / Brave Bird	100%	188%	370.6%	1:03	2.1	0.36
Fire Spin / Fire Blast	100%	247%	370.8%	1:03	1.4	0.36
Steel Wing / Fire Blast	100%	214%	371.7%	1:03	1.8	0.36
Peck / Hurricane	100%	266%	371.8%	1:03	1.1	0.36
Fire Spin / Flame Charge	100%	329%	371.9%	1:03	0.8	0.36
Steel Wing / Hurricane	100%	212%	372.8%	1:03	1.8	0.36
Steel Wing / Flame Charge	100%	279%	373.3%	1:03	1.1	0.36
Fire Spin / Fly	100%	240%	373.9%	1:03	1.3	0.36
Peck / Fly	100%	245%	374.0%	1:03	1.3	0.36
Peck / Flame Charge	100%	340%	374.7%	1:03	0.7	0.36

Measured over the top 6 attackers on the list above rather than by re-ranking the whole roster once per moveset — the ordering is what the table is for, and a full re-rank per moveset would cost ten times the page's whole simulation budget. Win % is the share of runs 1 trainers of those attackers finish inside the raid timer. Overall is Pokebattler's published blend on its own absolute scale (higher is easier), not a percentage of the best row the way the ranked table's Overall column is — which is why an easy boss reads well above 100% here.

Simulating each boss moveset…

Talonflame weaknesses and resistances

Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.

rock2.56x water1.6x electric1.6x normal1x flying1x poison1x ghost1x psychic1x ice1x dragon1x dark1x fighting0.63x ground0.63x steel0.63x fire0.63x fairy0.63x bug0.39x grass0.39x

Double weak (1)
Weak (2)
Neutral (8)
Resists (7)

It resists bug0.39xgrass0.39xfighting0.625xground0.625xsteel0.625xfire0.625xfairy0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.

What Talonflame throws at you

Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.

Fast moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
fireFire SpinSTAB	13	+9	1.0s	0.75s
steelSteel Wing	14	+8	1.0s	0.70s
flyingPeckSTAB	10	+10	1.0s	0.45s

Charged moves

Move	Power	Energy	Duration	Hits at
flyingBrave BirdSTAB	130	-100	2.0s	1.00s
flyingFlySTAB	90	-50	2.0s	1.40s
flyingHurricaneSTAB	105	-100	2.5s	1.00s
fireFire BlastSTAB	140	-100	4.0s	2.90s
fireFlame ChargeSTAB	70	-33	4.0s	3.10s

Catch CP

What the encounter after the fight can hand you.

IV spread	CP at L20	CP at L25 (weather boosted)
10/10/10floor	1,193	1,492
11/11/11	1,206	1,508
12/12/12	1,220	1,525
13/13/13	1,233	1,541
14/14/14	1,246	1,558
15/15/15hundo	1,260	1,575

Caught CP range 1,193 - 1,260, or 1,492 - 1,575 when the weather boosts it.

A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 10/10/10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.

When it is in raids

From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.

Talonflame is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.

All settings

Tier 3: 3,600 HP, 3:00 timer, boss Attack 139 / Defense 124 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.73).

Raid bossAttacker levelAttacker IVsWeatherFriendshipDodgingTrainers in the lobbyMega in the lobbyParty Play trainersBoss fast moveBoss charged moveSort by

Attackers allowed

ShadowMega and PrimalLegendary, Mythical, Ultra BeastLegacy and Elite TM moves

Share these exact settings

Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank

On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.

#	Attacker	Moveset	Overall	Power	Est.Estimator	TimeTime to win	Faints	Win % (1)	CP	DPS	TDO
1	Shadow Rampardos rockshadow Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	98%	406.9%	0.33	0:58	1.9	100%	3,298	64.1	1275
2	Mega Diancie rockfairymega Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	100%	392.8%	0.34	0:60	1.3	100%	4,346	61.3	1599
3	Shadow Rhyperior groundrockshadow Smack Down / Rock Wrecker	Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+15 more movesets	98%	371.8%	0.36	1:03	0.9	100%	3,733	59.4	1898
4	Shadow Tyrantrum rockdragonshadow Rock Throw / Meteor Beam	Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets	93%	362.9%	0.37	1:05	1.2	100%	3,128	57.4	1810
5	Mega Tyranitar rockdarkmega Smack Down / Stone Edge	Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets	99%	354.1%	0.38	1:06	0.6	100%	5,347	55.2	2474
6	Shadow Gigalith rockshadow Smack Down / Meteor Beam	Smack Down / Meteor Beam+14 more movesets	90%	354.1%	0.38	1:06	1.4	100%	3,228	55.3	1493
7	Mega Aerodactyl rockflyingmega Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+23 more movesets	91%	348.7%	0.38	1:07	1.1	100%	4,118	54.3	1767
8	Shadow Tyranitar rockdarkshadow Smack Down / Stone Edge	Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets	89%	344.8%	0.39	1:08	1.2	100%	3,834	53.5	1673
9	Rampardos rock Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets	83%	343.3%	0.39	1:08	1.8	100%	3,298	53.6	1272
10	Glimmora rockpoison Rock Throw / Meteor Beam	Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+7 more movesets	83%	329.7%	0.41	1:11	1.4	100%	3,273	52.2	1520
11	Mega Raichu Y electricmega Volt Switch / Zap Cannon+	Volt Switch / Zap Cannon++35 more movesets	79%	325.3%	0.41	1:12	1.8	100%	3,780	50.9	1250
12	Shadow Aerodactyl rockflyingshadow Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+23 more movesets	76%	318.0%	0.42	1:14	2.1	100%	2,783	49.5	1172
13	Rhyperior groundrock Smack Down / Rock Wrecker	Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+15 more movesets	83%	314.9%	0.42	1:15	0.9	100%	3,733	49.4	1865
14	Shadow Aurorus rockiceshadow Rock Throw / Meteor Beam	Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets	77%	313.9%	0.43	1:15	1.7	100%	2,802	49.9	1335
15	Mega Greninja waterdarkmega Water Shuriken / Surf+	Water Shuriken / Surf++17 more movesets	76%	313.3%	0.43	1:15	1.9	100%	3,784	49.6	1307
16	Tyrantrum rockdragon Rock Throw / Meteor Beam	Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets	80%	310.0%	0.43	1:16	1.2	100%	3,128	48.1	1799
17	Mega Starmie waterpsychicmega Water Gun / Liquidation+	Water Gun / Liquidation++44 more movesets	76%	309.1%	0.43	1:16	1.6	100%	3,701	48.3	1403
18	Shadow Landorus (Incarnate) groundflyingshadow Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+7 more movesets	71%	308.0%	0.43	1:16	2.7	100%	3,588	48.2	974
19	Shadow Aggron steelrockshadow Smack Down / Meteor Beam	Smack Down / Meteor Beam+23 more movesets	78%	306.9%	0.44	1:16	1.3	100%	3,000	48.5	1642
20	Terrakion rockfighting Smack Down / Rock Slide	Smack Down / Rock Slide+11 more movesets	74%	304.6%	0.44	1:17	1.8	100%	3,698	47.3	1310
21	Mega Raichu X electricmega Thunder Shock / Volt Tackle+	Thunder Shock / Volt Tackle++35 more movesets	75%	301.3%	0.44	1:18	1.7	100%	3,510	46.7	1336
22	Shadow Alolan Golem rockelectricshadow Rock Throw / Stone Edge	Rock Throw / Stone Edge+8 more movesets	77%	301.0%	0.44	1:18	1.1	100%	2,949	46.4	1650
23	Gigalith rock Smack Down / Meteor Beam	Smack Down / Meteor Beam+14 more movesets	76%	299.7%	0.45	1:18	1.3	100%	3,228	47.2	1632
24	Shadow Golem rockgroundshadow Rock Throw / Stone Edge	Rock Throw / Stone Edge+11 more movesets	73%	298.7%	0.45	1:19	1.6	100%	2,949	46.4	1395
25	Shadow Omastar rockwatershadow Rock Throw / Rock Slide	Rock Throw / Rock Slide+11 more movesets	73%	293.9%	0.45	1:20	1.7	100%	2,786	45.8	1392
26	Shadow Archeops rockflyingshadow Wing Attack / Ancient Power	Wing Attack / Ancient Power+5 more movesets	67%	289.4%	0.46	1:21	2.5	100%	3,331	46.1	1026
27	Tyranitar rockdark Smack Down / Stone Edge	Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets	74%	286.2%	0.47	1:22	1.1	100%	3,834	44.6	1728
28	Shadow Thundurus (Therian) electricflyingshadow Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm	Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm+9 more movesets	66%	281.1%	0.48	1:23	2.4	100%	3,659	44.7	1068
29	Primal Kyogre watermega Waterfall / Origin Pulse	Waterfall / Origin Pulse+5 more movesets	72%	280.5%	0.48	1:24	1.2	100%	5,902	43.4	1730
30	Shadow Sudowoodo rockshadow Rock Throw / Meteor Beam	Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+11 more movesets	64%	273.7%	0.49	1:26	2.2	100%	2,148	43.1	1139

How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).

Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.

Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.

Known weak spots.

Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.

This boss on pokebattler.com. Boss-by-boss accuracy report.

Ranked 30 attackers in 0.2 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.