A Shadow raid boss hits harder than its normal form (Shadow Frenzy), and the Pokemon you catch afterwards is a Shadow. Purified Gems weaken it mid-fight; the simulation does not use them.
Beating Shadow Tornadus (Therian) should take 2 trainers with level 40 counters. Caught CP 1,693-1,837.
Weak torock1.6xelectric1.6xice1.6x
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Best counters
Mega, Legendary, Shadow · level 40The best Shadow Tornadus (Therian) counters are Mega Raichu Y, Shadow Thundurus (Therian), Kyurem (White), Kyurem (Black), Shadow Raikou & Shadow Rampardos.
M. Raichu Y
S. Thundurus (Therian)
Kyurem (White)
Kyurem (Black)
S. Raikou
S. Rampardos
2 more Megas ranked inside the top six — a party can hold only one Mega, so the best one stays and the next non-Mega takes the slot.
Ranked by Estimator (trainers needed); small print: time to winOrder byEstimatorOverall %
- 1Mega Raichu YMegapartyThunder Shock / Zap Cannon+1.023:00
- 2
Mega Mewtwo YMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Future Sight+1.163:23 - 3
Mega Raichu XMegaThunder Shock / Volt Tackle+1.163:25 - 4Shadow Thundurus (Therian)ShadowLegendarypartyVolt Switch / Wildbolt Storm1.203:31
- 5Kyurem (White)LegendarypartyIce Fang / Ice Burn1.243:38
- 6Kyurem (Black)LegendarypartyDragon Tail / Freeze Shock1.363:59
- 7Shadow RaikouShadowLegendarypartyThunder Shock / Wild Charge1.374:00
- 8Shadow RampardosShadowpartySmack Down / Rock Slide1.374:01
- 9
Mega DiancieMegaLegendaryRock Throw / Rock Slide1.394:05 - 10
Mega Mewtwo XMegaLegendaryPsycho Cut / Thunderbolt1.404:06
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Top 15 Shadow Tornadus (Therian) counters in detail
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| # | Attacker | Moveset | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mega Raichu Yelectricjoint top pick | electricThunder ShockelectricZap Cannon+ | 3,780 | 3:00 | 1.02 | 6.0 | 130.6% | |
| 2 | Mega Mewtwo Ypsychic | psychicPsycho CutpsychicFuture Sight+ | 6,428 | 3:23 | 1.16 | 5.0 | 115.4% | |
| 3 | Mega Raichu Xelectric | electricThunder ShockelectricVolt Tackle+ | 3,510 | 3:25 | 1.16 | 6.0 | 114.8% | |
| 4 | Shadow Thundurus (Therian)electricflying | electricVolt SwitchelectricWildbolt Storm | 3,659 | 3:31 | 1.20 | 6.0 | 111.0% | |
| 5 | Kyurem (White)dragonice | iceIce FangiceIce Burn | 4,605 | 3:38 | 1.24 | 5.8 | 107.6% | |
| 6 | Kyurem (Black)dragonice | dragonDragon TailiceFreeze Shock | 4,605 | 3:59 | 1.36 | 5.8 | 98.1% | |
| 7 | Shadow Raikouelectric | electricThunder ShockelectricWild Charge | 3,452 | 4:00 | 1.37 | 5.8 | 97.7% | |
| 8 | Shadow Rampardosrock | rockSmack DownrockRock Slide | 3,298 | 4:01 | 1.37 | 6.0 | 97.4% | |
| 9 | Mega Diancierockfairy | rockRock ThrowrockRock Slide | 4,346 | 4:05 | 1.39 | 5.7 | 95.8% | |
| 10 | Mega Mewtwo Xpsychicfighting | psychicPsycho CutelectricThunderbolt | 6,112 | 4:06 | 1.40 | 5.6 | 95.4% | |
| 11 |  Zeraoraelectric | electricVolt SwitchelectricPlasma Fists | 3,419 | 4:09 | 1.42 | 5.9 | 94.3% | |
| 12 |  Shadow Electivireelectric | electricThunder ShockelectricWild Charge | 3,079 | 4:09 | 1.42 | 6.0 | 94.2% | |
| 13 |  Regielekielectric | electricThunder ShockelectricThunder Cage | 2,803 | 4:10 | 1.42 | 6.0 | 94.0% | |
| 14 |  Mega Manectricelectric | electricThunder FangelectricWild Charge | 3,580 | 4:11 | 1.43 | 6.0 | 93.5% | |
| 15 |  Shadow Rhyperiorgroundrock | rockSmack DownrockRock Wrecker | 3,733 | 4:13 | 1.44 | 5.3 | 92.9% |
Ordered by Estimator alone, fewest trainers needed first. . The place badge names each row's Overall place on hover.
Times are one trainer with six copies of that attacker, level 40 at 15/15/15, no weather, no friendship, no dodging, Shadow / Mega / Legendary attackers hidden — the same defaults pokebattler.com's own counter pages open with. Open the full counter tool to change any of them. "Details" opens the per-move damage, breakpoints and energy cycle against Shadow Tornadus (Therian).
Estimator is how many trainers of this strength the fight needs. Power is the share of Shadow Tornadus (Therian)'s HP that six of that attacker remove inside one raid timer, so over 100% means they finish it with time to spare. Faints is how many of the six go down inside that timer.
Simulating each boss moveset…
Tornadus (Therian) weaknesses and resistances
Every one of the 18 attacking types against this boss's typing. GO multipliers: 1.6x super effective, 2.56x doubly, 0.625x resisted, 0.39x doubly resisted.
- Weak (3)
- Neutral (11)
- Resists (4)
It resists ground0.39xfighting0.625xbug0.625xgrass0.625x— bringing one of those is throwing damage away.
What Tornadus (Therian) throws at you
Its standard movepool, with the damage window a dodge has to beat.
Fast moves
| Move | Power | Energy | Duration | Hits at |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| flyingGustSTAB | 25 | +20 | 2.0s | 0.90s |
| ghostAstonish | 7 | +13 | 1.0s | 0.60s |
Charged moves
| Move | Power | Energy | Duration | Hits at |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| flyingHurricaneSTAB | 105 | -100 | 2.5s | 1.00s |
| fightingFocus Blast | 140 | -100 | 3.5s | 3.00s |
| fireHeat Wave | 95 | -100 | 3.0s | 1.70s |
| psychicPsychic | 95 | -50 | 3.0s | 1.50s |
Catch CP
What the encounter after the fight can hand you.
| IV spread | CP at L20 | CP at L25 (weather boosted) |
|---|---|---|
| 6/6/6floor | 1,693 | 2,117 |
| 7/7/7 | 1,709 | 2,136 |
| 8/8/8 | 1,725 | 2,156 |
| 9/9/9 | 1,740 | 2,176 |
| 10/10/10 | 1,756 | 2,196 |
| 11/11/11 | 1,772 | 2,216 |
| 12/12/12 | 1,788 | 2,236 |
| 13/13/13 | 1,805 | 2,256 |
| 14/14/14 | 1,821 | 2,276 |
| 15/15/15hundo | 1,837 | 2,296 |
Caught CP range 1,693 - 1,837, or 2,117 - 2,296 when the weather boosts it.
A raid encounter is level 20 (level 25 weather boosted) and cannot roll an IV below 6/6/6 — a Shadow raid's floor is 6, not the usual 10. Anything outside the first range is not this raid's reward.
Shadow raid floor. A Shadow Raid encounter rolls a minimum of 6/6/6, so this band starts at 1,693, not at the 1,756 a 10/10/10 catch would give. pokebattler.com's own page for a Shadow boss prints that 10/10/10 value as its floor — it is applying the standard-raid rule — so expect its range to start 63 CP higher than this one. LeekDuck's published band agrees with the table above.
When it is in raids
From the raid schedule, refreshed daily.
Tornadus (Therian) is not on the raid schedule right now. The simulation above is still exact for the tier chosen — any boss can be simulated, current or not.
All settings
Shadow Tier 3: 4,000 HP, 3:00 timer, boss Attack 192 / Defense 155 (15/15/15 at tier CPM 0.76).
Every column, and pokebattler.com's own rank
On a phone the list shows estimator, time to win and faints. Overall, Power, win chance, CP, DPS and TDO appear on a wider screen.
| # | Attacker | Moveset | Overall | Power | Est.Estimator | TimeTime to win | Faints | Win % (2) | CP | DPS | TDO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mega Raichu Y electricmega Thunder Shock / Zap Cannon+ | Thunder Shock / Zap Cannon++35 more movesets | 100% | 130.6% | 1.02 | 2:60 | 7.7 | 100% | 3,780 | 23.7 | 470 |
| 2 | Mega Mewtwo Y psychicmega Psycho Cut / Future Sight+ | Psycho Cut / Future Sight++26 more movesets | 93% | 115.4% | 1.16 | 3:23 | 5.5 | 100% | 6,428 | 20.2 | 622 |
| 3 | Mega Raichu X electricmega Thunder Shock / Volt Tackle+ | Thunder Shock / Volt Tackle++35 more movesets | 88% | 114.8% | 1.16 | 3:25 | 7.6 | 100% | 3,510 | 20.8 | 471 |
| 4 | Shadow Thundurus (Therian) electricflyingshadow Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm | Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm+9 more movesets | 83% | 111.0% | 1.20 | 3:31 | 8.7 | 100% | 3,659 | 20.0 | 421 |
| 5 | Kyurem (White) dragonice Ice Fang / Ice Burn | Ice Fang / Ice Burn+17 more movesets | 82% | 107.6% | 1.24 | 3:38 | 8.1 | 100% | 4,605 | 19.2 | 446 |
| 6 | Kyurem (Black) dragonice Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock | Dragon Tail / Freeze Shock+11 more movesets | 73% | 98.1% | 1.36 | 3:59 | 8.9 | 100% | 4,605 | 17.6 | 415 |
| 7 | Shadow Raikou electricshadow Thunder Shock / Wild Charge | Thunder Shock / Wild Charge+9 more movesets | 73% | 97.7% | 1.37 | 4:00 | 8.9 | 100% | 3,452 | 17.4 | 405 |
| 8 | Shadow Rampardos rockshadow Smack Down / Rock Slide | Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets | 69% | 97.4% | 1.37 | 4:01 | 12.6 | 100% | 3,298 | 17.8 | 306 |
| 9 | Mega Diancie rockfairymega Rock Throw / Rock Slide | Rock Throw / Rock Slide+5 more movesets | 71% | 95.8% | 1.39 | 4:05 | 9.0 | 100% | 4,346 | 17.1 | 412 |
| 10 | Mega Mewtwo X psychicfightingmega Psycho Cut / Thunderbolt | Psycho Cut / Thunderbolt+26 more movesets | 71% | 95.4% | 1.40 | 4:06 | 8.7 | 100% | 6,112 | 17.0 | 425 |
| 11 | Zeraora electric Volt Switch / Plasma Fists | Volt Switch / Plasma Fists+9 more movesets | 71% | 94.3% | 1.42 | 4:09 | 8.6 | 100% | 3,419 | 16.8 | 416 |
| 12 | Shadow Electivire electricshadow Thunder Shock / Wild Charge | Thunder Shock / Wild Charge+9 more movesets | 67% | 94.2% | 1.42 | 4:09 | 12.0 | 100% | 3,079 | 17.0 | 316 |
| 13 | Regieleki electric Thunder Shock / Thunder Cage | Thunder Shock / Thunder Cage+11 more movesets | 68% | 94.0% | 1.42 | 4:10 | 11.1 | 100% | 2,803 | 17.2 | 335 |
| 14 | Mega Manectric electricmega Thunder Fang / Wild Charge | Thunder Fang / Wild Charge+14 more movesets | 68% | 93.5% | 1.43 | 4:11 | 10.3 | 100% | 3,580 | 16.7 | 361 |
| 15 | Shadow Rhyperior groundrockshadow Smack Down / Rock Wrecker | Smack Down / Rock Wrecker+15 more movesets | 69% | 92.9% | 1.44 | 4:13 | 9.2 | 100% | 3,733 | 16.7 | 444 |
| 16 | Mega Rayquaza dragonflyingmega Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent | Dragon Tail / Dragon Ascent+11 more movesets | 71% | 92.6% | 1.44 | 4:13 | 7.5 | 100% | 5,713 | 16.4 | 485 |
| 17 | Xurkitree electric Thunder Shock / Discharge | Thunder Shock / Discharge+7 more movesets | 66% | 92.4% | 1.45 | 4:14 | 11.2 | 100% | 3,937 | 16.6 | 336 |
| 18 | Thundurus (Therian) electricflying Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm | Volt Switch / Wildbolt Storm+9 more movesets | 68% | 91.9% | 1.45 | 4:15 | 9.7 | 100% | 3,659 | 16.5 | 382 |
| 19 | Shadow Zapdos electricflyingshadow Thunder Shock / Thunderbolt | Thunder Shock / Thunderbolt+11 more movesets | 67% | 91.7% | 1.46 | 4:16 | 9.7 | 100% | 3,527 | 16.3 | 380 |
| 20 | Zekrom dragonelectric Charge Beam / Fusion Bolt | Charge Beam / Fusion Bolt+9 more movesets | 69% | 90.4% | 1.48 | 4:20 | 7.5 | 100% | 4,038 | 16.0 | 484 |
| 21 | Mega Aerodactyl rockflyingmega Rock Throw / Rock Slide | Rock Throw / Rock Slide+23 more movesets | 68% | 89.5% | 1.49 | 4:22 | 8.2 | 100% | 4,118 | 15.8 | 449 |
| 22 | Shadow Magnezone electricsteelshadow Volt Switch / Wild Charge | Volt Switch / Wild Charge+15 more movesets | 63% | 87.2% | 1.53 | 4:29 | 11.3 | 100% | 3,205 | 15.8 | 367 |
| 23 | Shadow Luxray electricshadow Spark / Wild Charge | Spark / Wild Charge+14 more movesets | 60% | 86.2% | 1.55 | 4:32 | 13.0 | 100% | 2,888 | 15.6 | 294 |
| 24 | Shadow Mewtwo psychicshadow Psycho Cut / Thunderbolt | Psycho Cut / Thunderbolt+23 more movesets | 62% | 86.2% | 1.55 | 4:32 | 10.8 | 100% | 4,178 | 15.4 | 339 |
| 25 | Mega Tyranitar rockdarkmega Smack Down / Stone Edge | Smack Down / Stone Edge+15 more movesets | 66% | 85.8% | 1.56 | 4:34 | 7.3 | 100% | 5,347 | 15.1 | 691 |
| 26 | Eternatus poisondragon Dragon Tail / Dynamax Cannon | Dragon Tail / Dynamax Cannon+7 more movesets | 64% | 85.7% | 1.56 | 4:34 | 8.4 | 100% | 4,429 | 15.2 | 475 |
| 27 | Mega Starmie waterpsychicmega Psywave / Liquidation+ | Psywave / Liquidation++44 more movesets | 63% | 85.3% | 1.57 | 4:35 | 9.4 | 100% | 3,701 | 15.2 | 389 |
| 28 | Shadow Tyrantrum rockdragonshadow Rock Throw / Meteor Beam | Rock Throw / Meteor Beam+17 more movesets | 60% | 84.8% | 1.58 | 4:37 | 12.0 | 90% | 3,128 | 15.6 | 384 |
| 29 | Rampardos rock Smack Down / Rock Slide | Smack Down / Rock Slide+5 more movesets | 58% | 83.3% | 1.60 | 4:42 | 13.9 | 100% | 3,298 | 15.1 | 285 |
| 30 | Shadow Galarian Darmanitan (Standard) iceshadow Ice Fang / Avalanche | Ice Fang / Avalanche+7 more movesets | 55% | 82.7% | 1.62 | 4:44 | 18.1 | 100% | 3,105 | 15.5 | 209 |
How accurate is this? Same top pick as pokebattler.com on 26 of 27 lists checked, 90% of its top tens shared; weakest on Mewtwo's default list (7 of 10).
Ranking. Our full ranking against the page pokebattler.com serves for the same boss and settings, on 27 boss and filter combinations read live (2026-10-04): 242 of 270 top-ten places shared, the same #1 on 26. On the six fixed reference bosses (read 2026-10-03): 85% top-ten overlap with its default filters, 83% with Shadow, Mega and Legendary on. A close top three is shown as a tie because the order inside it is below what we can measure.
Time to win. Graded with Pokebattler's own movesets against every boss moveset, average per boss: Tier 1 and 3 +0.1% to +1.2%; Tier 5 −2.9% to +1.3%; Mega −1.1% to +2.6%; Shadow Tier 5 −1.8% to +0.3%. One attacker can be off by more: median 1.6%, worst 15%, RMS per boss moveset 2.05%.
- Mewtwo (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of Pokebattler's top 10: Absol, Incineroar and Salamence sit just outside ours, Polteageist, Cursola and Hisuian Typhlosion just inside.
- Groudon (Tier 5, default filters) shares 7 of 10; its Grass and Water counters run 2-6% fast here.
- Tier 5 times run about 2-3% fast for attackers that faint often, and 2-3% slow on Mega Charizard Y and Mega Beedrill, whose counters resist the boss.
- Tier 1 lists are the least checked: Combee (Tier 1) shares only 3 of Pokebattler's top 10, with Gigalith first here where Pokebattler puts Rhyperior.
This boss on pokebattler.com (its Shadow boss page; the ordinary boss's page is a different, easier fight). Boss-by-boss accuracy report.
Ranked 30 attackers in 0.6 s (50 Monte Carlo runs each, seed 1). Same boss on pokebattler.com. The same ranking as JSON: /api/raids/rank.